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IT'S HARD TO GET RID OF THEM!(DEMOPUBLICANS)
NewsWithViews ^ | June 14, 2003 | By Betty Freauf

Posted on 06/14/2003 7:22:32 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay

When I was a GOP activist, every election season all I heard was "We have got to beat the Democrats." Finally I wised up to the fact that we no longer have a two-party system, we have a one-party system -- Demopublicans. They pass laws for us but make themselves exempt. Read: The Demopublican Party Wins Again.

Former Congressman Bob Dornan (R-Ca), a strong pro-life advocate, on his radio talk show on June 2, 2003 interviewed Gary Aldrich, author of his newest book Thunder on the Left. Gary also is author of Unlimited Access about his experience as an FBI agent inside the Clinton White House. He worked for the FBI for more than 30 years, 25 as an agent specializing in white-collar crime, especially fraud and political corruption.

Both men emphasized the lack of toughness in the Republican party and because the Democrats are "gutter fighters", as Aldrich described them, the Republicans seem to be weak-kneed when it comes to conservative issues they should be supporting. Oh yes, they say the right things and itch the ears of their constituents in generated computer letters and town hall meetings. They make a few ripples on the water to make their followers believe they are sincere, but when the dust settles, the Democrats have usually advanced their liberal Marxist agenda of two steps forward and one step backward and won the battle.

It seems the established party line is that it is so hard to get and keep good quality federal employees. It's so hard to attract people. Aldrich says "NONSENSE, we have boxes upon boxes full of résumés of people who are dying to come back here to work for any of the these federal agencies, especially the good ones like the FBI, and getting elected to Congress. It's absolute nonsense that it's hard to get people. What's really true is: IT'S HARD TO GET RID OF THEM.

"They begin to enjoy the perks - the army-navy golf course - and all the other things that go on here, which I thoroughly enjoy myself," Aldrich admits, and "they don't want to leave." "I've seen Congressmen and Senators walk down the hall. I've seen the groupies swarm around and basically get on their knees -- and kiss their rings. Who would want to give that up?" asks Aldrich. "That's the kind of attention people die to get. That's celebrity status. That's political rock star status and no matter how homely some of these people are, they still get the treatment at the airport, at the restaurant, everywhere you go you are treated like a celebrity..."

Dornan, who lost his Congressional seat in the middle 1990s to a Democrat in a race which he claims was stolen by fraud, agreed with Aldrich's evaluation and then commented on the astronomical salaries they receive. He said there may be a few high-powered lawyers who could command those types of salaries but most of these people elected to Congress could never make that type of money in the private sector.

Aldrich said one reason for these defeats is that "Republicans and conservatives are about as hard to marshall and organize as cats are. You can't herd cats and you can't herd conservatives and Republicans." He went on to state that the one thing that really rankles him is that almost on a daily basis folks on the right continually find excuses for these hard-left people - those who are highly critical of the U.S. that borders on treason, and in some cases crosses the line - but "you'll have a number of Republicans rush forward to declare to the world these people are really patriotic and they really love America and we shouldn't say anything mean about them and that they are simply exercising their First Amendment rights and they have a difference of opinion."

Dornan thought perhaps he had an answer. He said when he was in the House of Representatives, a couple Democrats - the dying breed of the conservative gentlemen of the Democrats, told him, "You know, we've got Gerry Studds (D-Mass) and Barney Frank (D-Mass) and we don't know of anybody else that's homosexual in our party, but you know, Frank and Studds laugh that you've got six homosexuals on your side of the aisle that undermine everything you are trying to do and they hate you, Bob Dornan, and they are working with (Newt) Gingrich." In November 1994 Gingrich, who allegedly has a younger sister who is a lesbian, was calling for tolerance of gays.

The Power of Prophecy February 2002 newsletter said when Barney Frank and his live-in lover were discovered several years ago running a homosexual prostitution ring out of Frank's home, Republican leader Newt Gingrich came to his rescue. Gingrich, a regular on FOX's Hannity and Colmes, warmly praised homosexuals in Congress for their "courage" to run for office and then he talks about "renewing American civilization which is decaying..." Our local paper in April 1989 said "Mr. Gingrich, the Republican whip, is a congressional Jimmy Swaggart, who condemns sin while committing hypocrisy."

Dornan said he laughed it off as an exaggeration that the elephants had more homosexuals than the donkeys. He said he knew three but then he began to pay attention and pretty soon he identified all six. Dornan said they are like a cancer within the party.

In a commentary by James Pinkerton in my local paper on 8/3/2000, he indicated Robert K. Dornan had been a leading gay basher in Congress but he didn't know his own Chief of Stafff was gay. Isn't it interesting that Dornan failed to admit this to the listening audience or maybe he still doesn't know. It's not unusual to have a fox or two inside the conservative chicken house.

In 1983 Congressman Gerry Studds (D-Mass) was charged with homosexual relations with a 17-year old youth who was serving as page in the House. Studds took the youth on a two-week tour. He insisted it was a "private relationship between adults." The House membership disagreed and censured him.

In approximately the same time period, Congressman Daniel B. Crane, a Republican conservative from the 12th district in Illinois and a married man and father of six children, engaged in sexual activities with a 17-year old girl while she was serving as a page. And unlike Studds, Crane expressed deep remorse for what he had done and voted in favor of his own censure. Of the two, Studds was the least repentant. Compare this censure to what happened to Senator Trent Lott. www.newswithviews.com/Betty/Freauf2.htm

Regarding foxes inside the chicken house, an interesting story appeared in the Salem, Oregon June 7, 2003 Stateman Journal. It seems Senator Margaret Carter (D-Portland) was stopped outside a grocery store after buying some steaks to take to a friend's house for dinner. The bold title said she was black. Not recognizing this "important" person, a store clerk demanded to see the receipt for the three items Carter had purchased costing $32. "I was so embarrassed," Carter said. "It immediately reminded me of my experiences under a segregated system." And I'm betting she was so embarrassed she called the media to report what she believed to be a "racial profiling" incident.

Margaret was on a bullhorn on T.V. a few weeks ago before an already agitated crowd criticizing the Portland police about the death of a young, black girl who was shot escaping in a car.

Apparently the buzzer apparatus at the grocery store had malfunctioned. Her friend is my black senator, Jackie Winters, allegedly a strong GOP conservative who, in my opinion, should be strongly opposed to Senator Carter's agenda. I have no problem with them being cordial to one another at work but hobnobbing after hours is suspect and reminds me of the wrestlers who beat each other up in the ring, but when the entertainment is over and the lights are dimmed, they meet at their favorite watering hole and laugh at the fools who bought the tickets.

Since the Goldwater era, followed by the Reagan years, more and more conservatives in Oregon have been elected as precinct people and they, in turn, select delegates to the state and national conventions. These delegates, many pro-lifers, work very hard to oppose the homosexual lifestyle in the platform planks but the GOP top leaders still support known homosexuals when they run for public office oftentimes doing everything in their power to defeat the other candidate who may be standing firm on the platform planks. Homosexuality's rapid rise from an unmentionable vice to a celebrated minority status and the overhauling of "straight" America rests at the feet of the GOP. The gay liberation movement has advanced its position to the point of intimidation and now we are facing "hate" legislation introduced by Ted Kennedy (D-Mass) and my own Senator Gordon Smith (R-OR).

Smith, a Mormon whose church opposes homosexuality, was elected to the Oregon Senate by the conservative vote and rose quickly to become Senate president. When he ran for the Senate in Washington, D.C., the conservatives, who were unaware of his voting record in the Oregon senate, sent him back to become another pundit on the Potomac but before the ink was dry on their ballots, Smith rejected the endorsement of a group who opposes the homosexual agenda and accepted the Republican Log Cabin homosexual endorsement. Count on it. Unless something is done to stop the homosexual agenda, many of our grandchildren will be sodomized with government approval.

I feel they are grooming' Gordon to someday run for President. He's good looking, rich and eloquent. A pioneer in frozen foods, Smith's father, Milan Smith, was politically connected in the Mormon church and the Republican Party. In 1954, when Gordon was two, his family moved from Pendleton, where the frozen food business is located, to Washington, D.C. so his father could take a job as Assistant Secretary of Agriculture under President Eisenhower. Smith grew up in suburban Washington and graduated from a private prep school. Keep your eye on Gordon and don't say I didn't warn you.

If the party platform is like a white wedding dress, only worn once and sometimes flies under false colors, why don't the Republicans simply call off the state and national conventions? The money the Republicans spend on this facade and for their hours on the T.V. during the national convention boring the rest of us to tears could better be used if donated to their favorite charity.

Aldrich said the two groups come to Washington, D.C. with different notions of how things are going to be and what they want to accomplish. The hard left comes knowing full well they will put on a battle and they will fight in the gutter. They will do whatever it takes to win and to push their agenda forward. They come to Washington, D.C. very serious.

The Republicans, on the other hand says Aldrich, arrive with a collegial atmosphere styled notion of the way things are going to be. They bring their polo mallets and they are ready to tip their Chardonnay wine glasses at events... They are nice people. They aren't cut from the same cloth as the very crude, down and dirty hard-left people.

Aldrich says the first thing they have to do is get over how nasty it is back here (Washington, D.C.). Some never do. Some go into a state of denial and just opt out of the fight but they do enjoy the perks of office, the adjuration of the staff and the media and the groups around this town and so they don't want to leave. They realize they are ineffective warriors in this culture war but they don't want to give up their perks and we're stuck with them... They are fully prepared to compromise each and every day to get the tidbit that the hard-left is willing to throw them and that is how they start and end every single day of their careers up here on Capitol Hill." www.newswithviews.com/Betty/Freauf28.htm

What a sad commentary about the men and women we, the people elect to office.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: District of Columbia; US: Illinois; US: Massachusetts; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: aldrich; carter; crane; demopublican; doran; dornan; frank; gingrich; lott; smith; studds
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...the Democrats have usually advanced their liberal Marxist agenda of two steps forward and one step backward and won the battle.

Could just one example be the guilt-ridden parties in Congress who ordered $2.4 billion sent to people paying no taxes..taking money that would be used for already established social programs that are helping some of the families paying no taxes..those federally funded services that increase government costs.

Ask what childhood literature was the favorite of many of our "elected officials"..and bet it comes up the romantic Victorian classic, Robin Hood.

1 posted on 06/14/2003 7:22:32 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: All
Repairs link in story: The Demopublican Party Wins Again.


2 posted on 06/14/2003 7:29:42 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay
The truth hurts.

It's a two headed snake.

I'll be surprised if this post isn't pulled because it will upset the moonies.
4 posted on 06/14/2003 7:31:36 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: fight_truth_decay
One of those homosexual Republican Congressman was just outed by the New Times, an alternative homosexual oriented newspaper.

He is Mark Foley, Palm Beach County and a member of that Class of '94.

5 posted on 06/14/2003 7:34:22 AM PDT by Seeking the truth (I went on the FRN Cruise for the 2nd time! Y'all don't miss the 3rd, ya hear?)
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To: DoctorMichael
>>>I'm in a REALLY pissy mood this morning.
>>>Republicans are bunch of pussies.
>>>DON'T GET ME STARTED!

Tell us how you really feel.
6 posted on 06/14/2003 7:42:13 AM PDT by 4mycountry (Japanese drain pipe is so tiny, please don't flush too much toilet papers.)
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To: fight_truth_decay
You still have not figured it out have you?

The left won the game when they took control of education. Our education systems has taught a new set of liberal views to a generation and a half of Americans.

Some idiots think that if they just influence the right elected officials or elect the right officials it will be fixed. Get a clue. Even a so called conservative Senator will do what a majority of the public wants. Unfortunately a majority of the voters agree with the Log Cabin Republicans. So that is with whom the elected officials sign on.

If the majority of voters agree with your views.. nothing else needs to be done. Politicians will come out of the woodwork to enact your views into law. If a majority of voters disagree with your views they will not be enacted and those that have been enacted previously will be repealed.

Abraham Lincoln said it best. This is a nation of the people, by the people and for the people. It is not a nation of the politicians, by the politicians, and for the politicians. The people on the right never figure out what every Democrat knows. If you have the majority of the voters with you.. .the battle is won.

This is a nation of the people, by the people, and for the people. So the only solution is to educate the public to your point of view. Wasting time on politician is of no value. Spend your time changing what a majority wants.

People who argue that politicians won't do what the public wants, are lying to themselves about how much support their opponents have.

First you change public opinion.. then stand back and watch what you want to happen, happen.


7 posted on 06/14/2003 7:48:16 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Darth Sidious
You were right! Oh, I forgot, you're not here any more.
8 posted on 06/14/2003 7:52:38 AM PDT by snopercod
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To: fight_truth_decay
This is from a recent post of mine in another thread:


What you have to understand here is that you're dealing with politicians. You're not dealing with people who stand for philosophy and principle like we do here. Political calculations and ramifications are at the head of their priority list, and it doesn't matter if they're Dems or Republicans, liberals or conservatives.

That's why I couldn't stop laughing the other day when Rush tried to frame the thing about giving child tax credits to people who don't pay taxes as "politics vs. principle." I mean, DUH! How often do politicians choose principle over politics? That particular issue would be a political winner for the GOP. What would you expect them to do?

Bottom line, I wish it were otherwise but our government is a political animal, not a principled animal.


Basically, the problem here is that unlike most of us here, you could probably count on two hands and maybe one foot the actual number of GOP politicians in Washington, whether in Congress or the White House, who actually have a fire in their belly to dismantle the social welfare state and take on the inflated sense of entitlement that everyone has and take this country back to the values that made it great.

9 posted on 06/14/2003 7:54:01 AM PDT by GB
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To: fight_truth_decay
Oh Oh
The "log jammin" Repubs ain gonna like dis here..
10 posted on 06/14/2003 7:57:54 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Very good article, thorough and well written. I have only one objection: Instead of DEMOPUBLICANS why not the more euphonious (and accurate) epithet: RINOcrats?
11 posted on 06/14/2003 8:29:31 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (California! See how low WE can go!)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
???? I agree w/ the post and read the Wash Times everyday.

What's your point?

12 posted on 06/14/2003 8:33:22 AM PDT by sauropod (Watch out for low flying brooms! The witch has left the Wal-Mart...)
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To: Carry_Okie
You sign "the petition" yet? What about Di?
13 posted on 06/14/2003 8:34:58 AM PDT by sauropod (Watch out for low flying brooms! The witch has left the Wal-Mart...)
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To: sauropod
Not those moonies, Bushmoonies who go ballistic whenever there is criticism of the party.

I'm saying it's a twofaced one party system.
14 posted on 06/14/2003 8:35:52 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Common Tator
I disagree. I do not believe Americans believe in this. I believe the silent majority is still concerned about the moral climate in this country but have been silenced by bullies of the "bigot" brigade. Then there is a segment that is totally indifferent to anything. I see a lot of people on here gloating about the supposed fall of the Democrats but the way I see it, they are getting there way on alot of things with the implicit help of the GOP. Republicans stand for nothing, believe in nothing.

But back to the article, it does seem like there are more homosexual Republicans at the national level in elected office if you actually start looking at it. This is curious?
15 posted on 06/14/2003 8:39:43 AM PDT by bluebunny
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To: Common Tator
Some idiots think that if they just influence the right elected officials or elect the right officials it will be fixed. Get a clue. Even a so called conservative Senator will do what a majority of the public wants.

Oh really?

80% of the people in this country want better border control elimination of illegal immigration.

They don't get it from Congress, do they?

60% of people in California voted for same sex marriages. The legislature undermined that, didn't they? Prop 209 passed by a wide margin. So, did the elected school boards drop bilingual education? Then there was term limits (with which I disagree). Did the legislature follow the will of the people, or did they sue?

Your thesis, although internally logical, is unsupported by facts. Politcians follow the money, not the will of the voters.

First you change the politicians. Then stand back and watch what you want to happen, happen.

16 posted on 06/14/2003 8:41:03 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (California! See how low WE can go!)
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To: sauropod
Completed two of them and got a neighbor to fill out a third.
17 posted on 06/14/2003 8:41:53 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (California! See how low WE can go!)
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To: fight_truth_decay
In approximately the same time period, Congressman Daniel B. Crane, a Republican conservative from the 12th district in Illinois and a married man and father of six children, engaged in sexual activities with a 17-year old girl while she was serving as a page.

Actually it was Phil Crane.

18 posted on 06/14/2003 8:48:57 AM PDT by Sci Fi Guy
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
We are in agreement then. I prefer to call them Bush-Bots.
19 posted on 06/14/2003 8:56:26 AM PDT by sauropod (Watch out for low flying brooms! The witch has left the Wal-Mart...)
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To: Sci Fi Guy
1983 cases of Reps. Daniel B. Crane (R-Ill.) and Gerry E. Studds (D-Mass.), both of whom acknowledged seducing Capitol Hill pages. "Studds was reelected and Crane went down in flames. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/attitudes020998.htm
20 posted on 06/14/2003 8:58:28 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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