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Logan [airport] getting weapons upgrade: Police are issued submachine guns
Boston Globe ^ | 6/13/2003 | Mac Daniel, Globe Staff

Posted on 06/14/2003 6:07:22 AM PDT by xsysmgr

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:10:05 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Submachine guns, long a common sight in many European airports, made their debut yesterday at Logan Airport, which has spent more than 11/2 years bolstering its security and image after becoming the takeoff point for two of the planes hijacked by terrorists in the Sept. 11 attacks.


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TOPICS: Government; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: airportsecurity; bang; banglist; ccrm; logan; md5sd; submachineguns
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1 posted on 06/14/2003 6:07:22 AM PDT by xsysmgr
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But Peggy Lucas-Taylor, 72, of Lehigh Acres, Fla., wasn't so sure.

''They should have something, but not necessarily a machine gun,'' she said. ''I think a machine gun would do more harm than good. It's such a big weapon. Maybe some of that pepper spray? Or a stun gun? I don't know.''

Thats right Peggy you don't know, so shut the hell up....

2 posted on 06/14/2003 6:10:21 AM PDT by ThreePuttinDude ( Lieutenant in the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy)
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To: xsysmgr
Another bunch of wannabe Rambo's trying to make themselves look and feel important behind the disguise of 'security'.

Whew!! I feel soooooo safe now.

3 posted on 06/14/2003 6:13:30 AM PDT by Pern ("It's good to know who hates you, and it's good to be hated by the right people." - Johnny Cash)
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4 posted on 06/14/2003 6:15:37 AM PDT by angkor
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To: xsysmgr
>> "I think a machine gun would do more harm than good."

More harm than good to what Mark Steyn called Logan's reputation as "New England's Terrorist Playground". I still wonder if Andy is going to let F-Troop have any bullets.
5 posted on 06/14/2003 6:16:27 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ("ALL THE NEWS THAT FITS, WE PRINT")
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To: xsysmgr
"Submachine guns for me, but not for thee," said the mighty State.

Seems to be a pretty good profit margin on MP5's of any flavor... I suppose when governments are the only customers, there isn't going to be much in the way of competitive pricing.

6 posted on 06/14/2003 6:17:43 AM PDT by niteowl77
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To: edskid
It's imported.

It's a banned assault rifle.

It has a silencer.

It fires semi-auto.

Can I have one?

7 posted on 06/14/2003 6:24:19 AM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: xsysmgr; *bang_list; *CCRM
Many of the problems with "security" at airports have been discussed within the 2nd Amendment Community and generally revolve around two issues: training and ammunition.

For example, for some reason, the most politically correct governmental organizations have long favored the Full Metal Jacket Round Nose projectile as somehow to be a "safer" type of ammunition when in fact, it will "overpenetrate" and cause injury to many more "no shoot" targets than the hollowpoint projectile.

So, for example, the patrols conducted by National Guard after 9-11 were more likely to armed with ball ammunition designed for combat ( required by the Geneva Convention) than "one stop,one hit" ammunition necessary for the immediate impairment of a terrorist.

Overall, this article is the usual mixture of igorance and propaganda we have all come to expect and love from the Nattering Knuckleheads of Nitwittery who dominate the Muddlestream Media.

Best regards,

8 posted on 06/14/2003 6:27:20 AM PDT by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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To: patton
It fires semi-auto.

I believe you meant to say auto. Give 'em surplus M3s that's what I say (a little spray and pray never did anyone any harm).

9 posted on 06/14/2003 6:27:56 AM PDT by Archangelsk (Paraphrased and modified: "R E S P O N S I B I L I T Y, that's what makes thing fly.")
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10 posted on 06/14/2003 6:29:32 AM PDT by Archangelsk (Paraphrased and modified: "R E S P O N S I B I L I T Y, that's what makes thing fly.")
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To: patton
I've heard this weapon refered to as "the worlds most expensive .380". Since the suppresser reduces the bullet velocity to subsonic, it really is not a very powerfull weapon.(not that I'd like to catch a few rounds from one}
11 posted on 06/14/2003 6:31:22 AM PDT by heckler (wiskey for my men, beer for my horses)
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To: Archangelsk
Well, a two-round burst is not really auto. Anybody know a good term for this?
12 posted on 06/14/2003 6:35:46 AM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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To: heckler
How is the accuracy?
13 posted on 06/14/2003 6:38:32 AM PDT by patton (I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
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Well, a two-round burst is not really auto. Anybody know a good term for this?

Ballistus interruptus

14 posted on 06/14/2003 6:39:57 AM PDT by niteowl77
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To: patton
Sure, selective fire.
15 posted on 06/14/2003 6:41:53 AM PDT by Archangelsk (Paraphrased and modified: "R E S P O N S I B I L I T Y, that's what makes thing fly.")
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To: xsysmgr
This is the stupidest idea our nanny government has come up with in awhile. A single shot from a 9mm won't do enough damage in a crowded airport so why not something that shoots in bursts? This is suppose to make airports safer?

These guns are meant to intimidate and control. The next time an old woman complains about security procedures picture a cop pointing one of these things at her.

Terrorists don't worry about what gun a cop is wearing they just slip around security. Meanwhile American citizens have to put up with European style jackboots and surly screeners without saying a word in protest.

STUPID! STUPID! STUPID!



16 posted on 06/14/2003 7:00:36 AM PDT by Noachian
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Yeah, I feel better with MA State Police roaming Logan Airport with machine guns, looking for some terrorist action. (sarcasm)
17 posted on 06/14/2003 7:05:40 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: patton
It also fires full auto.

And, no you can't.

You're not a Lord.

You're a peasant.

Peasants don't need guns like that.

Lords do.

Because they know what's best for us.

It's for our own good.

18 posted on 06/14/2003 7:10:35 AM PDT by coloradan
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To: patton
Insta-doubletap.
19 posted on 06/14/2003 7:11:19 AM PDT by coloradan
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To: xsysmgr
the silencer feature was a key component sought by the State Police to help mute the alarm caused if the guns have to be fired inside the airport's buildings. ''If it was shot in a terminal, the report would be very soft ... and that would create less panic,''

Gawd forbid that the sheep might panic.
I guess they'll install elastic-absorbent floor tiles next, so any nearby sheep wont hear the body go thump or see the blood and bile.

''It's also something that we want to put out there so that when terrorists come to this airport to conduct surveillance on things that they might want to do here, that it acts as a deterrent,'' he said.

Landing in Logan during a thunderstorm is the bigger deterrent. IMO

The MD5SD is an ominous-looking weapon that can fire a single 9mm round, or, with the flip of a switch, fire two rounds with a single pull of the trigger.
It is highly accurate over long distances and will not fire a volley of uninterrupted bullets

So, it's a scary-looking semi-auto with flash suppressor and silencer. No mention of magazine size or a bayonet mount.
Not a machine-gun.

Carabinieri: Welcome to Italy.

20 posted on 06/14/2003 7:12:55 AM PDT by dread78645
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