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To: ConstitutionLover
John Adams and the rest of the founding fathers would be insulted by your comments!

You are totally void of the spirit of the Founding Fathers. You would give up liberty in order to secure your ideas of social progress.

Unless you can prove that these kids were 'hurt' by a factual reasonable standard there is no justification for the state to be involved.

Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.
- Daniel Webster

Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies, The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
- C.S. Lewis

375 posted on 06/18/2003 10:00:23 AM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (Professional FReeper. Do not attempt.)
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To: CyberCowboy777
You can quote all the famous people you want but it still doesn't make their words relevant in this case. You know nothing about the founding fathers except what has been drilled into your little head by the extremist libertarians who claim to be defending their "spirit".

The fact is that the formation of any government requires the surrendering of some liberties. You are obviously unwilling to surrender any liberty which means you should find yourself a society somewhere in the world that has no government. Good Luck!
377 posted on 06/18/2003 10:52:12 AM PDT by ConstitutionLover
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