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Home-schooling standoff (MA Liberals try to get state custody for 'abused' home-schooled kids)
Metrowest Daily ^ | 6/13/03 | Beecher

Posted on 06/13/2003 12:26:29 PM PDT by pabianice

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To: pabianice
At least the kids are old enough to know the deal. What I might think of doing is putting my kids in school and telling them to do what ever they wanted, get suspended, get thrown out . Then what is DDS going to do? I am ashamed that I have a degree in social work. This is the reason I got out of it, to never return.
81 posted on 06/13/2003 1:18:19 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
Yeah, but never the less it's showing it's teeth. A vilent jesture. Reason enough to commence with belt-fed weapons.
82 posted on 06/13/2003 1:19:57 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: pabianice
SIGN THE PROCLAMATION
"I proclaim publicly that I favor ending government
involvement in education."

http://www.sepschool.org/Proclamation
84 posted on 06/13/2003 1:20:29 PM PDT by jgrubbs
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To: Dog Gone
A writ of habeus corpus in federal court would be fun and likely rewarding under 42 U$C 1988.
85 posted on 06/13/2003 1:22:12 PM PDT by Thud
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To: No More Gore Anymore
Is that a PITBULL in that picture???

No, it looks like a yellow Lab. Dog's just yawning!

86 posted on 06/13/2003 1:22:35 PM PDT by Jambe
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To: SamAdams76
Sam, she deserves to be sued for malfeasance, possibly malpractice. The law , however, gives her immunity from all that, so she is not accountable to anyone. Hence, her taunt. Part of the fix ffor these socialist thugs is to repeal their immune status. The other part is to take the funding away from CPS.
87 posted on 06/13/2003 1:22:37 PM PDT by ladysusan (Social wreckers, not social workers)
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To: SamAdams76
Sam, Your scenario--welfare tramp watching soaps while kids run wild--simply does not exist where parents homeschool. It is opposed to the nature of the thing, which is this:

No neglectful parent wants to have his/her pestiferous kids underfoot unless absolutely necessary. As soon as is possible, these types pack their kids off and away.

Nope...never seen that one....but heard that very argumant lots of times from social workers, state reps, and others. No there, there.

88 posted on 06/13/2003 1:22:40 PM PDT by dasboot (Everything that should be up, is up.)
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To: dasboot
From the tone of the story, the parents are well versed in both the law and the Constitution and are willing to tell the DSS to kiss their collective @$$e$.
89 posted on 06/13/2003 1:22:57 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: jgrubbs
George Bryant, a civilian engineer for the U.S. Air Force, said the couple submitted several educational plans to Waltham school officials, but none were deemed acceptable.

He told the court the burden should be on the city to show that the children are being harmed, not on the parents to prove they aren't.
90 posted on 06/13/2003 1:23:49 PM PDT by jgrubbs
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To: TaxRelief
The children in my kids' private school are given standardized testing as part of their school's certification. They take the same tests that the public school children take. (And do much better on it for less money per child, but that's irrelevant.)

However, I do not believe that all private schools in my area give this test--not all are certified by the state or the North Central Association, nor do homeschoolers have to take any such exam here (unless they want to, or before attending a certified school.) So I have the choice and if I didn't want my children to take the test I could avoid it.

These parents do not have the right to move to a state where they have choice, because they've lost custody. Sounds like bondage to me--if you don't have the right to leave, you are a slave.
91 posted on 06/13/2003 1:24:31 PM PDT by ChemistCat
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To: No More Gore Anymore
I am ashamed that I have a degree in social work. This is the reason I got out of it, to never return.

Please tell the people here about social workers and immunity from from lawsuits.

92 posted on 06/13/2003 1:24:48 PM PDT by ladysusan (Social wreckers, not social workers)
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To: nmh; pabianice
Is nmh the official spokesman for the Republican Party on this thread?

Where is the Party of Lincoln on the issue of freeing the children?

Anybody?

This is the sort of issue that drives folks to the fringe parties.

Some things are just so damn wrong that they drive people to acts of principle!
93 posted on 06/13/2003 1:25:03 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: nmh
"Furthermore, why should these kids be excemt from testing? Why must they be the exception to the rule?"


Public schools receive public funds, therefore children in public schools should be tested to make sure taxpayers are getting their money's worth.

Home-shool children do not receive federal funds and should be exempt form testing. If these children wish to attend a college, I am sure they would submit to entrance exams, but that is their choice (or their problem if home schooling did not bring them to the standards they need to succeed)

I say BRAVO to this family. If more of us would stand up to this tyranny this country would stand a chance...

95 posted on 06/13/2003 1:27:39 PM PDT by Roughneck (Get the U.N. out of the U.S, and get the U.S. out of the U.N.)
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To: ChemistCat
Actually, they may be able to move to another district within the state that is kinder to homeschooling?? I was given no flack for ten years that we homeschooled here in rural southern Mass.
96 posted on 06/13/2003 1:28:49 PM PDT by dasboot (Everything that should be up, is up.)
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To: nmh
First of all standardized tests are tools to make sure the civil servants we pay to teach are doing their jobs and therefore "worth" our money.

Parents are the one's who should decide what is good for the child, unitl the child is old enough to make those choices. If we had more parents actually working with their own children we would not have the mess we have in this country with young people. The state does not own children, they do not get to decide if kids should be raised in Day CAre,should read ceratin books or should be tested for IQ. It is none of the state's business what the child's IQ is.

Social workers, who are usually below average IQ, should not get to make up their own rules re: acceptable testing metods for young people. This is a case of social workers out of control and on a power binge. If that doesn't worry you, nothing should.

97 posted on 06/13/2003 1:28:56 PM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: pabianice
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98 posted on 06/13/2003 1:29:09 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: dasboot
I have to disagree with you on the point of it never happening. We have a family friend whose sister took her kids out of school to be homeschooled. He told us he was going to have to report his own sister because she wasn't doing a darn thing about educating her kids. She was just unhappy that she kept getting called for their misbehavior at school. It does happen. This isn't to put down the serious homeschoolers out there.
100 posted on 06/13/2003 1:30:05 PM PDT by TXBubba (Someday I'll change my name to TXBubbette)
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