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Home-schooling standoff (MA Liberals try to get state custody for 'abused' home-schooled kids)
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| 6/13/03
| Beecher
Posted on 06/13/2003 12:26:29 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: CyberCowboy777
Indeed it is tyranny. Does Ms. Escovitz even hear her own words, or realize what a monster she's become?
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posted on
06/18/2003 12:21:52 PM PDT
by
jejones
To: CyberCowboy777
Waltham parents' hearing benched: Homeschooled kids stay put ***"The number one guidance that the DOE provides is for parents to get their curriculum approved by the school committee in the district," said Heidi Perlman, spokeswoman for the DOE. "The school committee must approve the curriculum before it is deemed as acceptable."
.The parents have been ruled unfit because they did not file educational plans or determine a grading system for the children, two criteria of Waltham's homeschooling policy.***
It looks like no one is going to back down. If they take the kids, this will blow up in the state's face.
To: jejones
By some it is 'right' to take freedom for ones own good.
It is better for community if the children are tested and the community has more rights than the individual I guess.
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posted on
06/18/2003 12:24:14 PM PDT
by
CyberCowboy777
(They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
The state cannot back down! What impertinence! To think that a parent may know better than the state, why the state has 'experts'.
The state is going to flex it's muscles and if this gets to a higher court the state will be handed it's hat.
Unless the state can prove harm in fact, it has no place in these parents face. The state cannot require reading of it's citizens, it cannot require a specified educational track. It only is admonish to promote education for all, not to FORCE it.
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posted on
06/18/2003 12:29:44 PM PDT
by
CyberCowboy777
(They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
To: CyberCowboy777; All
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posted on
06/18/2003 12:37:21 PM PDT
by
tutstar
To: CyberCowboy777
You are ignoring the fact that the state has custody (right or wrong) of these kids. Unless a higher court can show that granting that custody was flawed, the state can now dictate what kind of education they get. The state has already won the first battle getting a court to give it custody. That's why I believe the parents went too far in this case. If that hadn't happened, the state wouldn't be FORCING education on the family. So the issue here is whether the state should have custody and not whether it should be dictating, or FORCING education on them.
To: ConstitutionLover
The State cannot FORCE education, some weird "educational neglect" custody or not.
I think the state will back way down. They do not want this thing to go to a higher court. If it did the concept of "educational neglect" based on arbitrary standards and legal custody on that sole count will be found unconstitutional.
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posted on
06/18/2003 12:46:23 PM PDT
by
CyberCowboy777
(They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
To: CyberCowboy777
I'd like to see public education hauled before a court for fraud, neglect and impersonating a provider of education. Think of all the minds that have been left empty, all the lives that have been shortchanged.
To: Cincinatus' Wife; ConstitutionLover
The judge granted custody of the children based upon 'educational neglect'.
I submit that I can prove 'educational neglect' in the case of at least 50% of the kids in Public Schools.
What would the judge do with that?
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posted on
06/18/2003 1:38:00 PM PDT
by
CyberCowboy777
(They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
To: pabianice
While I agree that the DSS is way out of bounds and the parents are probably taking the right stand....
What is with all the posts about how "normal" the family looks? Are you not succumbing to the same fallacy the DSS has by using that as a criteria. So who decides what a "normal" looking family is? Did you expect them to look like backwoods hicks? What if they were wearing overalls and no shoes? What if they were black or hispanic or whatever?
At least stay consistent with your own logic. If we are fighting for the parents right to keep control, then so be it. If you are merely fighting for your version of normal over the DSS then use your franchise to vote in a new DSS official!
Peace out...
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posted on
06/23/2003 3:59:22 PM PDT
by
joe2994
("I don't friggin know")
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