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Rape Does Not Matter
ToogoodReports.com ^ | Weekender June 15, 2003; | Lowell Phillips

Posted on 06/13/2003 12:08:10 PM PDT by F_Cohen

Rape Does Not Matter

By Lowell Phillips

Weekender June 15, 2003

Toogood Reports

We hear it all the time, "The Clintons are gone", but right-wingers can't get over them. It's acrimoniously suggested that we "move on". Even some alleged conservatives agree, like syndicated talk-radio host Glen Beck who again admonished those who "just can't let the Clintons go."

Interesting.

A decade and a half after Ronald Reagan gracefully faded from the national stage his name remains synonymous with jingoist foreign policy and malevolence toward the downtrodden, according to the left. Scarcely a political exchange on the economy ends without a reference to those appalling "Reagan Era deficits", of course omitting the reality that Reagan policies nearly doubled the revenues going into federal coffers, revenues promptly spent, and then some, by a Democrat controlled Congress. But properly interpreted or not, it's certainly appropriate that an influential, for good or ill, two-term president should remain political fodder so long as the consequences of his policies continue to be felt.

Well, Bill Clinton was an influential two-term president, primarily for ill in my opinion. And just over two years after his tenure ended, it is fair to say that we are inundated with the consequences of his policies. The results of his failed attempt at appeasement with North Korea, the empowering of Yasser Arafat, the lackadaisical handling of a growing terrorist threat, the dismantling of our military, radical environmental policies (causing a dire natural gas shortage), just to name a few, are all little things with which we are currently forced to contend.

I can't recall a single time when president Bush or a member of his administration blamed their predecessors for any ongoing difficulties. This is in stark contrast to the Clinton administration, and Bill specifically, who despite inheriting a recovering economy, the end of the Cold War and a finely tuned military, habitually made reference to problems left by "the previous administration".

Democrats, led by a crowded field of presidential candidates, base their attacks on the "Bush economy" entirely on a nostalgic view of the Clinton presidency. Needless to say, this makes discussion of Clintonomics mandatory.

As for demands that we rabid conservatives "get over it" and accept that the Clintons are gone, one wonders; "Gone where?" Hardly a day goes by when our esteemed ex-president or his enchanting Senator wife is not front-page news. It is not arguable that they remain firmly in control of the Democratic Party. Moreover, the reality that the effort to put Hillary in the Oval Office began before Bill was out is accepted by admirers and opponents alike. The painful truth is that, no matter how much we "Clinton Bashers" long for a time when they appear only in grim flashbacks, they aren't going anywhere, anytime soon.

The release of Hillary's new biography, Living History, and the accompanying media blitz are integral parts of the buildup to her run at the White House, which is just as likely in 2004, as it is in 2008. It should come as news to no one that the portions of the book dealing with Bill's sexual exploits and her knowledge of and reaction to them are receiving the most attention.

No matter what Hillary or her husband might say, or not say, about Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Whitewater, Cattle futures, "Filegate", "Travelgate", presidential pardons, the Lincoln Bedroom or anything else from the laundry list of unseemly events and activities, the line with the American people is firmly established. After 12 years of Republicans in the White House, the Democrat Party was willing to accept anything to win, and did. And with the help of a highly sympathetic media, voters showed they could be convinced of anything.

It is possible that the poor embattled Clintons were set upon to an unprecedented degree, due to the fanaticism of their enemies. But any president that can be named, from Lincoln to FDR, from Jefferson to Reagan had enemies every bit as determined, yet few have been so generous in providing reasons for suspicion. It is possible that even though the list of their accusers and their associates that have died mysteriously, been convicted, fled the country or taken the 5th is staggering, Bill and Hillary may be clean as a whistle, with the exception of that little perjury thing. It is also possible that Al Capone was guilty of nothing more than a failure to pay income tax. It isn't likely, however. But through it all, the most maddening phenomenon is the utter irrelevance of the word "rape" when associated with the name "Clinton".

If we close our eyes and take a deep breath, it is easy to imagine the reaction if a woman were to come forward and claim that some 20 years ago George W. Bush forcefully kissed her, then sank his teeth into her lip as a method of control to facilitate a rape, with several of her acquaintances corroborating the story. Would there be any other story? Would anything else matter until it was fully investigated, with all questions answered?

Taking into account Clarence Thomas' ordeal after being charged with inappropriate jokes and pubic hairs on Coke cans, should there be any doubt? Yet that identical story of rape levied by Juanita Broaddrick against Bill Clinton is not an issue or a story, and never has been. The single question on the matter directed at the Clinton White House was deferred to an attorney. And there it ended. It's easy to conceive of Richard Nixon serving out his second term if the first question regarding Watergate was dismissed with the press allowing it to end there.

Like all others who accuse the Clintons, Broaddrick is shrugged off as a pawn of the "vast right-wing conspiracy". And like Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey and others who charge that Bill is a sexual predator, she is portrayed as a money-grubbing tramp, or a bold-faced liar, to the extent that she is acknowledged at all.

Attacks on those who point a finger at the Clintons are expected. Disregarding them, irrespective of the charges and evidence, is typical. But complicity in this by purported defenders of "women's rights" is ceaselessly revolting.

In the midst of this week's Hillary love-fest, Juanita Broaddrick appeared in an exclusive interview on Fox News' Hannity And Colmes. She retold her story in vivid detail, but once it was over, substitute co-host Pat Halpin, Newsweek's Eleanor Clift, and syndicated columnist and "rape victim" Susan Estrich appeared unmoved and uninterested in a story they saw as old and not particularly important. They succinctly reflected the attitude of all Clinton loyalists.

And at that moment I wondered about those infomercials in heavy rotation on radio, instructing fathers to teach their son's never to victimize women. I thought about the slogan "no means no", about the campaign to educate men that "just don't get it" regarding sexual harassment, and about the widely held belief that "women don't lie about things like that."

It is certainly possible that Broaddrick's story is false and that Bill is, for some inexplicable reason, the victim of erroneous accusations on an unheard of scale. But the half million dollars paid out in a settlement to Paula Jones, the false testimony given under oath to cover his tracks, the incessant womanizing throughout his life, imperiling his presidency and throwing the country into turmoil all suggest that Bill Clinton is a man with scant control of his sexual urges. The public reticule of women, including Monica up to the moment the DNA stained dress was unearthed, by his political machine show cold-heartedness, to put it mildly. As such, the rape charge is entirely believable.

For whatever reasons, the Clinton faithful have sworn allegiance to the exclusion of all else. How they reconcile their lofty rhetoric with such dubious character is their burden. But so long as Bill and his co-conspirator Hillary remain at the forefront of political power and plot a return to the White House, we right-wingers are under no obligation to "get over it" or pretend they have "gone" somewhere, when it is obvious that they haven't.


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: clinton; hillary; juanitabroaddrick; livinghistory
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1 posted on 06/13/2003 12:08:11 PM PDT by F_Cohen
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To: F_Cohen
The public reticule of women,

He carries a bunch of women in a purse? Or did they mean "ridicule?"

2 posted on 06/13/2003 12:12:29 PM PDT by Tax-chick (You can't tell from his pictures how short he is.)
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To: Tax-chick
That is not from the web site, I botched a couple of words during posting..... simply typed them back in ....

My bad
3 posted on 06/13/2003 12:24:35 PM PDT by F_Cohen
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To: F_Cohen
Too bad Eileen Wellstone won't come forward. She was the 2nd woman that Clintoon raped in '69 and Broaddrick in '78. What I found the most interesting is that Clintoon (Attorney General of Arkansas) told Broaddrick she wouldn't get pregnant after he raped her because he was sterile. Chelsea was born in 1980 two years after the rape of Broaddrick. The question begging to be asked: Who then is Chelsea's biological parent? Many women have children out of wedlock. That's not the emphasis. Hitlery was married with Bubba being groomed for either the governorship or the presidency. Read the FR posting "Morris Details Clinton Violence" with reference to corroboration by Ray Strother (see http://www.booknotes.org/Transcript/?ProgramID=1730). This amoral couple didn't need a child for their climb to the WH or did they? At what lengths did this ambitious, power-hungry couple go for the ultimate climb to occupy the WH? Who did they sell their souls to?
4 posted on 06/13/2003 12:29:17 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: F_Cohen
Its not that rape doesnt matter, its that the Broadrick rape will never be proven and its a waste of time to continue to debate it.

If the woman had had the courage of her convictions, she would brought charges when it could have saved us from eight years of Clinton. She did not do so. Now, continuing to bitch about it now does absolutely no good. It's a waste of time and it belittles those who argue it. There is a reason that we have time limits during which charges much be brought. It's due to the utter unfairness of attempting to defend yourself from a criminal charge years after possible witnesses have died and other evidence has disappeared. How many of us can remember where we were at 10 am of last Tuesday, much less in 1978 or whenever.

5 posted on 06/13/2003 12:37:13 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: F_Cohen
Leftists don't care.

It doesn't matter that Stalin murdered millions.

It doesn't matter that Klinton was a rapist, a swindler, a perjurer, a traitor, etc.

To them it doesn't matter.

But it matters to all of us who hate the SOB. And we'll NEVER forget or forgive.
6 posted on 06/13/2003 12:39:29 PM PDT by jimt
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To: Dave S
Who was she going to report it to? Clinton was the Attorney General for Arkansas at the time. She probably would have ended up with a completely destroyed reputation, or worse, dead.
7 posted on 06/13/2003 12:40:14 PM PDT by Pest
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To: F_Cohen
Hell, I haven't forgiven Teddy for drowning Mary Jo!
8 posted on 06/13/2003 12:43:25 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Freedom is not Free - Support the Troops!)
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To: lilylangtree
Chelsea looks like Web Hubble. There have been a lot of photos here on other posts that when you put the two pictures of them together, you can see the resemblence.
The only kid that we know that Clintoon fathered was little Dannyboy. He looks just like Bill. Now how he got sterile? The possibilities are endless.
9 posted on 06/13/2003 12:47:03 PM PDT by Ramtek57
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To: F_Cohen
Taking into account Clarence Thomas' ordeal after being charged with inappropriate jokes and pubic hairs on Coke cans, should there be any doubt? Yet that identical story of rape levied by Juanita Broaddrick against Bill Clinton is not an issue or a story, and never has been.

You equate a weak case of sexual harrasment with rape? Also, there was at least some justification for bringing up the case against Thomas in that he was being placed on the Supreme Court and hearings were already taking place. Clinton is running for nothing. He's just a joke that most people would like to forget.

The single question on the matter directed at the Clinton White House was deferred to an attorney. And there it ended. It's easy to conceive of Richard Nixon serving out his second term if the first question regarding Watergate was dismissed with the press allowing it to end there.

Duh, how many times have you seen in the conservative press? Dont say it got asked once and the issue disappeared. Thats disingenous. BTW, in case you werent around during Watergate, the press did ignore the whole issue for more than six months. The only reporters that were pursuing the breakin were Woodward & Bernstein. Most of the press didnt want to dirty their hands covering Watergate. Most of them, as liberal as they were didnt think that Nixon himself was involved. Not until the tapes came out.

10 posted on 06/13/2003 12:47:40 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Dave S
It's easy to remember where you were when your the attorney general of some state and you have a desk calendar that says you were at the hotel for a meeting. The same meeting where the woman you raped attended.
11 posted on 06/13/2003 12:49:38 PM PDT by breakem
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To: Pest
Who was she going to report it to? Clinton was the Attorney General for Arkansas at the time. She probably would have ended up with a completely destroyed reputation, or worse, dead.

She might have tried her local police. We will never know since she was guttless in Little Rock. Maybe she wouldnt have gotten a conviction but she might have derailed his career.

Mitchell was Attorney General of the US during WAtergate and he was indicted and convicted for his role in the break-in and related activiites. What makes you think Clinton was so powerful? The Demo establishment in the state might have found such criminal acts too embarrassing to allow him to continue.

12 posted on 06/13/2003 12:54:01 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: lilylangtree
What about Elizabeth Ward Gracen?
13 posted on 06/13/2003 12:58:43 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat (Help us elect Republicans in Kentucky! Click on my name for links to all the 2003 candidates!)
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To: Ramtek57
Why does everyone think that Clinton was suddenly being truthful about being sterile?
14 posted on 06/13/2003 1:00:08 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat (Help us elect Republicans in Kentucky! Click on my name for links to all the 2003 candidates!)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Missed that one. Who is she? What's her background with Clintoon?
15 posted on 06/13/2003 1:02:57 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Ramtek57
Boy oh boy, I've missed a lot. Who's Dannyboy? How old is he? Who was his mother?
16 posted on 06/13/2003 1:04:53 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: lilylangtree
You can't take what a liar says (mumps, sterile, etc) and believe it. It may or may NOT be true...I am not one of the "Chelsea isn't his" group, as I see his and her physical characteristics in Chelsea's features.

Having said that, if through some event it is revealed that Chelsea's paternity is other than publicly known, I wouldn't exactly keel over from the shock.

17 posted on 06/13/2003 1:06:03 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Dave S
Now, continuing to bitch about it now does absolutely no good. It's a waste of time and it belittles those who argue it.

Sorry, but I will NEVER pretend that I don't know that clinton is a rapist. Broaddrick is but one of his victims.

I don't harp or "bitch" about it. But I don't ignore it, either.

18 posted on 06/13/2003 1:07:25 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Tax-chick
Might be an oblique to 'gunny sacking'. That spelling caught me up, also.
19 posted on 06/13/2003 1:09:03 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: Dave S
I want to live in your world. The closest I can get is drinking two margaritas.
20 posted on 06/13/2003 1:09:16 PM PDT by RLJVet
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