White House Backs Latest Israeli Attacks

The Washington Post (Excerpted) ^ | 06/13/2003 | Glenn Kessler

[DoughtyOne]

White House Backs Latest Israeli Attacks
Focus Shifts to Arab Leaders' Commitment to End Support for Militant Groups

By Glenn Kessler
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, June 13, 2003; Page A22

The Bush administration signaled strong support for Israel's crackdown on militant groups yesterday, effectively abandoning its earlier criticism of the government of
Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon that had sparked an outcry from lawmakers on Capitol Hill and pro-Israel lobbying groups.

In coordinated statements, White House and State Department officials tried to shift the diplomatic focus from Israeli actions to the commitment made by Arab
leaders at a summit last week in Egypt to cut off funding and support for terrorist attacks against Israelis. Secretary of State Colin L. Powell made that point in a
round of phone calls to Arab foreign ministers, officials said.

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[McGavin999]

The plan being to show everyone, everywhere, who was undermining the peace process. To expose the euroweenies for the terrorist supporters they are, to take out Iraq, to put Syria on notice, to make sure that the Arab states were on public record against terrorism. This thing didn't materialize overnight. Who didn't know that the terrorists would continue bombing? Who didn't know that they would behave in exactly the same way they have been behaving for years? Who didn't know that Bush means what he says and says what he means? When he said he was going to fight terrorism, who was dumb enough to believe he would exclude Hamas, Hizbollah, and all the rest?

I'll tell you who. About half the posters on this forum.

[McGavin999]

I have just loved watching this whole thing unfold. Strategery at it's finest.

[Howlin]

You have no idea whether I'm wrong or not; you could be just as wrong as you claim I am. You're talking to people just like I am. Being an ardent Bush supporter has nothing to do with it.

Draw whatever conclusions you need to further your views; just try to stop acting like the rest of us are dopes because we don't see it like you do.

[ALS]

Yessssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!

[TLBSHOW]

it sure was..........

(BUSH/WH)
effectively abandoning its earlier criticism of the government of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon

that had sparked an outcry from lawmakers

on Capitol Hill and pro-Israel lobbying groups............

Glenn Kessler
WP

[Reagan Man]

>>>What I have been saying all along was that Israel had every right to defend themselves. You objected to that. Well now Bush agrees.

I never said anything of the sort. So stop putting words in my mouth. And Bush isn't agreeing with you, Bush is making the policy!

>>>All week you have been arguing that Sharon should not have joined the peace proces if he didn't mean to comply.

Exactly. The purpose of the meeting last week with PresBush, Abu Mazen and PM Sharon was to reach an agreement that would end hostilities and bring about a cease fire. That's what PresBush wanted from that first meeting. That obviously didn't happen. PresBush in no undercertain words, condemned the homicide bombings that killed innocent Israeli's and blasted Sharon and Israel for the retaliation that killed innocent people in the Gaza Strip.

>>>Good Lord, go to the Breaking News column and you'll find two or three articles there that state that Bush is now advocating a crack-down on Hamas.

That doesn't mean Bush has exonerated Sharon and Israel. Give me a break. These are fast changing sets of circumstances and the Bush adminstration has now determined that a cutting off financial add to Hamas is a priority and pressing that terrorist group, through other Arab nations is the right way to go. But things are highly fluid. You've got to pay attention.

>>>My emphasis has not been the Road Map...

That's obvious. My emphasis has always been on the Road Map For Peace all along. I've been on the Bush peace express from the beginning. You've just seen the light and now you're jumping onboard the Bush peace express too.

>>>.... you have demanded that Sharon cease his efforts to take out Hamas leaders.

Wrong. I never said that. I said that killing innocent people is wrong and I agreed with PresBush for condemning those excessive attacks in the Gaza strip and the homicide bombings.

>>> I stated that Sharon has a right to defend his nation.

I said the same thing. The issue here is, you didn't support the Bush peace plan at the time, I did and still support the Bush peace plan.

>>>I did however ask you to please mention one tangible thing Abu Mazen had done. You failed to respond.

Either your memory is bad, or you're lying. There's no third alternative.

Here's what you asked me and what I responded with.

>>>What one single thing can you point out that Abu Mazen did, that is tangible at this point? Please, name just one.
179 posted on 06/12/2003 7:34 AM MDT by DoughtyOne

Abu Mazen/Mahmoud Abbas hasn't done a thing. Now show me where I made a statement that says anything to the contrary? You can't. Another foolish statement by you!
180 posted on 06/12/2003 10:14 AM MDT by Reagan Man

I can't go on with this any longer. You're still a liar, a phony and a fool. On top of all that, you're a fraud too. I've had enough of your nonsense, once again.

[Ready4Freddy]

Why do you suppose the change in stated policy came late this week, the same week that he earlier publicly busted Israe'l's chops again?

[DoughtyOne]

The plan has morphed.  The news is clear, the speaches by Bush, Powell and Annan unmistakable.  Newspapers are heralding it.  So are Freepers far and wide.  The peace process could not continue until military action was taken against the terrorists without undercutting Israel every step of the way.  Finally, unable to deny it any longer, policy was shifted toward one that would see peace persued while military action took place.  For the first time in thirty years, the United States has kept it's fat yap shut when Israel defended itself.  Neutrality died today.  Thank the Lord.

This is not acknowledged as a change in policy.  It is merely the perfect plan of a perfect man who never made a mistake in his life, and for about five more years won't according to some.  Who didn't know that military action would have to be taken by Israel?  Well about half the people on this thread didn't.  Who didn't know that Bush doesn't always know what he should, or do what he should have eighteen months ago?  When he said he was going to fight terrorism, it was ludacrist for him not to call the premier terrorist on the planet by this title, but he wouldn't.  When he said he was going to fight terrorism, who was dumb enough not to think he should have taken out Hamas, Hizbollah and all the rest from the start?  Well, the diciples, that's who.

Making points at others expense is fun.
 
 

[Howlin]

From this thread: Do you support President Bush's "roadmap" for peace in the middle east?

To: RightWhale

I don't support trash!

41 posted on 06/11/2003 7:26 PM EDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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To: yonif

As for my thought on this matter... Bush has betrayed Israel.....


5 posted on 06/03/2003 1:45 AM EDT by TLBSHOW

21 posted on 06/03/2003 12:55 PM EDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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[MJY1288]

Well, Good evening Todd, I see you have showed up to cut and paste your usual clippings from the WP and/or the NYT's. You, like the the NYT's and WP, can't see the forrest for the tree's. One public statement is made against the actions of Sharon and you and the rest of the weakest links cry foul.

The fact is Todd, you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in your uninformed arse

[McGavin999]

Because Sharon jumped the gun. He struck before the serious attack that everyone knew would come. The one that no one in their right mind could keep Sharon from responding to.

[McGavin999]

Yeah, old Todd is always so full of rightous indignation every time he posts. He's always so "betrayed". What's this, the 11th or 12th time? The guy is just like the terrorists, he never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

[Ready4Freddy]

"Because Sharon jumped the gun. He struck before the serious attack that everyone knew would come."

Ah, I see now. 14 dead in a bus wasn't all that serious. Are you?

[Reagan Man]

>>>What I see that you don't see -- or don't want to -- is that he couldn't come right out the very first day and say KILL THEM ALL -- we have to at least LOOK like we're trying to do it by the book for the consumption of the rest of the world.

I basically told him that the other day Howlin, twice, but he didn't want to hear it. Let's take a look back.

"The fact PresBush condemns Israel for comitting this specific attack, is important to keep his appearence of being an honest broker in the ME."

...and ...

Bush has presented what is being called a "Road Map to Peace", so he would look pretty foolish, if he didn't try and appear to be the honest broker, he says he is.

[McGavin999]

Oh please Todd. Give it up. Look at what made this possible. You're not kidding anyone anymore. We've all got you figured out.

[DoughtyOne]

To: DoughtyOne

You have no idea whether I'm wrong or not; you could be just as wrong as you claim I am. You're talking to people just like I am. Being an ardent Bush supporter has
nothing to do with it.

Howlin, I don't think it is out of line for me to hold the opinion I do.  That opinion is now shared by papers who are ardently against Israel and it's taking military action, so I think it's safe to say they woudn't spin this against their own desires unless they thought it were true.

You have expressed your opinion.  I have expressed mine.  I'm sorry if that offends you.

Draw whatever conclusions you need to further your views; just try to stop acting like the rest of us are dopes because we don't see it like you do.

I guess you weren't quite savy enough to see the ridicule flying around this thread, as if nobody would notice.  You have a lot of nerve taking me to task for belittling anyone.

83 posted on 06/12/2003 11:59 PM PDT by Howlin

[Mo1]

Well, I'm not surprised .. haven't you checked the calander .. it's not May, 2004 yet

[HiTech RedNeck]

Making points at others expense is fun.

AHEM, JIM ROB SAID TO CUT OUT THE CAT FIGHTS. GO MEOW SOMEWHERE ELSE.

[MJY1288]

Hey wait a cotten picking minute, If it wasn't for Todd "holding President Bush's feet to the fire" we wouldn't be winning this war on terrorism < /sarcasm > OFF

In Todd's world, the truth is what he believes, not the facts!

[TLBSHOW]

Its from this thread at top that is being discussed! Just trying to keep the spinning down as to why the change of heart from the WH.