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Hate Speech
The Valley Advocate ^ | june 5, 2003 | Alan Bisbort

Posted on 06/11/2003 2:08:37 PM PDT by ummark

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To: Drew68
So who the hell is Alan Bisbort? Should've misspelled his name so he wouldn't get the hits.

Anyhow, of course he dug up these quotes from somewhere else. Everybody knows that Dims/Left don't do their own research. They sponge off other folks and claim it as their own.

All I have to do is point to the self-proclaimed newspaper of record...
21 posted on 06/11/2003 2:40:51 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (There is nothing Democratic about the Democrat party.)
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To: ummark
Free Republic posted an article about legislation proposed for a Slave Memorial in Washington, D.C. Among the barrage of nasty comments were: "Paradoxically, it's why slavery was RIGHT, in some weird sense. It's a condition of our existence, and in particular, a condition of black Americans' existence." Another: "Hell, what would it look like, a body swinging from a rope!" This is just the tip of their daily iceberg.

Now how do we know he didn't post those comments himself? That hardly represents opinion on FR. How dare he imply that it does.

22 posted on 06/11/2003 2:41:22 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: ummark
Way to selectively quote!
23 posted on 06/11/2003 2:42:24 PM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: ummark
IF the posts exist, it would most likely be a Thomas Sowell or a Walter Williams column.
24 posted on 06/11/2003 2:42:46 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: RAT Patrol
See posts #5 and #10
25 posted on 06/11/2003 2:43:12 PM PDT by Fraulein
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To: ummark
I just fired off a letter to the editors of this illustrious paper; I doubt I'll hear anything back:
Dear sirs:

In Alan Bisbort's 6/5 column ("Hate Speech; Now is not the time for quiet, well-thought rhetoric"), he refers to a quote I made on FreeRepublic.com, ("Hell, what would it look like, a body swinging from a rope!") within an ongoing conversation about the proposed "slavery memorial" in Washington.

Mr. Bisbort cites my quote, along with another from that conversation, as an example of "hate speech." First off, I am a black man, and secondly, I stand by that remark. Honestly, it was my first reaction to the notion of a "memorial" to slavery. If Mr. Bisbort had taken the time to review the remainder of the conversation, as opposed to taking comments out of context, he would have found that many of us who are opposed to such an endeavor expressed our disdain in more or less colorful language. However, the "hatred" that Mr. Bisbort implies was not present.

In one post in that same conversation, I posted a letter to Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist from myself, within the bounds of my position a member of the National Advisory Board of the Washington-based black conservative group Project 21. My letter is also posted on my website at http://mhking.blogspot.com/. In that letter, I point out the reason for my disdain of the proposal, and I dare say Mr. Bisbort - or anyone else for that matter - would only find "hate speech" in my letter if were attempting to paint any dissent as "hate speech."

Hateful? Not at all. Challenging what I see as folly? Absolutely.

Sincerely,

Michael H. King
National Advisory Board Member, Project 21
Mableton, GA


26 posted on 06/11/2003 2:46:01 PM PDT by mhking
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To: Fraulein
No surprise that he doesn't quote from your reasoned and well-written letter to Frist.

Of course not - that would have shot holes in his entire argument. Leave it to the Libs to omit the facts...

27 posted on 06/11/2003 2:47:10 PM PDT by mhking
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To: ummark
The issue isn't a slave memorial, it is what the race baiters will do with a slave memorial. An honest slave memorial would be a good thing. But I think Sowell was arguing that it will neither be honest nor used honestly.
28 posted on 06/11/2003 2:55:05 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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To: Fraulein
I did. Thanks for the links. I think mhkings quote was taken out of context. I am not sure I understand the other quote or the statement of the person he was responding to. Regardless, to represent Free Republic and that entire thread by those comments is to make oneself a liar. That's totally dishonest and unfair.
29 posted on 06/11/2003 2:57:00 PM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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Now how do we know he didn't post those comments himself? That hardly represents opinion on FR. How dare he imply that it does.

You know, for those of us who have engaged in debate on liberal discussion boards, his implication that hate only exists on the Right is monstrously muddle-headed. Take a gander on discussion groups on salon.com or motherjones.com or any number of 'activist' or 'social justice' sites and you'll find nearly continuous misanthropic statements from legions of malcontents and misfits. Sometimes it takes a little while for the politically correct facade to fall away, but make no mistake, hard-core liberals like this guy are saturated in resentment, a resentment that invevitably is nudged into hate when their dreams of utopia are frustrated by those who do no agree with them -- it's an inevitable psychological path for the likes such as he. No hate on the Left? This guy lives in a fantasy land.

Normally I'd say, "Who cares? It's just one guy." Except that he does represent the mentality of a certain brand of intellectually light-weight Leftist which believes that all conservative thought and philosophy is the equivalent of the Republican Party, and that all Republicans are racist hate-mongering bigots.

Maybe the guy should look up the meaning of the word 'bigot'.

30 posted on 06/11/2003 2:59:31 PM PDT by Catalonia
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To: mhking
Excellent response!
31 posted on 06/11/2003 3:01:38 PM PDT by Catalonia
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To: ummark
SPOTREP
32 posted on 06/11/2003 3:07:26 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Fraulein; ummark
Good work!

MHKing, keeper of the black conservative ping list, wrote it.

Never underestimate the collective intelligence of FR!
IOW, don't be a self-righteous liberal jerk like your intrepid author . . .

33 posted on 06/11/2003 3:12:04 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: mhking
You da man. That was more reasonable and restrained than I would have offered. My guess is he knew the context.
34 posted on 06/11/2003 3:16:04 PM PDT by doodad
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To: mhking
mhking,

That is a wonderful letter
35 posted on 06/11/2003 3:18:38 PM PDT by b-cubed
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To: RAT Patrol
mhkings quote was taken out of context. I am not sure I understand the other quote or the statement of the person he was responding to. Regardless, to represent Free Republic and that entire thread by those comments is to make oneself a liar. That's totally dishonest and unfair.
I think the correct term, after the NY Times columnist who clipped the inconvenient truth from a GW Bush quote, is "Doudy."

36 posted on 06/11/2003 3:19:09 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: mhking
Michael,
I will keep a sharp look out for your letter. To the Advocates credit they do run contrary submissions. Will keep you informed.
37 posted on 06/11/2003 3:20:13 PM PDT by ummark
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To: ummark
Aww, the poor little liberal is upset by mean words?

But what the little liberal wants is the ability to use them against us whilst we remain silent.

We know their game.

38 posted on 06/11/2003 3:20:48 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: mhking
The problem it is not that Michael H. King, a black man, wrote it but that it came from FReeRepublic. Racist group that we are, keep up the good work.

Bill

39 posted on 06/11/2003 3:46:52 PM PDT by Little Bill (No Rats, A.N.S.W.E.R (WWP) is a commie front!!!!,)
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To: Little Bill
The problem it is not that Michael H. King, a black man, wrote it but that it came from FReeRepublic.

Oh, don't forget, I will suddenly become an "evil uncle tom" once he links me and FR together...[g]

40 posted on 06/11/2003 3:53:20 PM PDT by mhking
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