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As a matter of fact, homeschoolers do better on any measure of academic performance. Your snide remark about geography and spelling reflects the prevailing attitude among educrats that learning fundamental facts is not acceptable or valuable. The unionists and socialist teacher trainers (beginning with the Deweyites) have brainwashed a generation (or more) of teachers who think that children cannot bear the thought of failure and should not be punished for unwillingness to study and do the work. It's about learning to "work together" to "find information together" to "come up with question together" and horseshit like that.

The unionists and socialist teacher trainers (beginning with the Deweyites) have brainwashed a generation (or more) of teachers who think that children cannot bear the thought of failure and should not be punished for unwillingness to study and do the work.

Posted by Lady Eileen to Carry_Okie On News/Activism 04/28/2003 11:12 AM EDT #39 of 58

Carry_Okie:The NEA was founded by the ideological cohorts of Mann and Dewey. Their purpose in initiating public schooling was to bring socialism to the US. This wasn't some kind of high-jacking, it was planned from the start.

Lady Eileen: Absolutely. And, as the old political adage says, "You can't beat a plan with no plan." Which is what conservatives and Christians have been trying to do. We bemoan the evils of the present system but don't have the vision of our opponents to propose and promote the same level of systematic change that Mann, Dewey, and their ilk accomplished generations ago.

And perhaps the main reason we don't have such vision and determination as a whole is that we are almost all products of their socialist educational scheme and its inherent indoctrination. They designed the system to produce passive supporters of the state, good little citizens that would work hard, pay whatever the government demanded in taxes, and not complain too much...

After all, the government is generously giving you a "free" education, aren't they? You should be more grateful.

As Rev. Ray Moore notes in his book ...Let My Children Go: Why Parents Must Remove Their Children From Public Schools Now

Why is abandonment of state schools necessary? Can't we just "fix" the problem of public education with better ideas, more money, more teachers, new technology, etc, etc? More and more Christians are beginning to understand they the clear answer to this question is an emphatic "No.!" State schools, according to Rev. Moore, are built upon a socialist, humanist-oriented model. Socialism, from its very foundation, is not compatible with Christianity and a free market economy. Government education's socialist model is, however, a brilliant means by which to inculcate the hearts and minds of children toward the goals and purposes of the state.

Thus we begin to see a battle line drawn by those who wish to indoctrinate children toward the goals of state education, versus those who wish to educate and point children toward their Creator to fulfill His purposes in their lives. And with Christ, we must keep in mind; there is no neutral ground.