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CNN's Tucker Carlson Just Said He Would 'Eat His Shoe' On Air if Hillary Sells Out First Printing
Inside Politics ^ | June 10, 2003 | Tucker Carlson

Posted on 06/10/2003 12:19:59 PM PDT by ewing

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To: ewing
Buy Ann Coulter !
61 posted on 06/10/2003 3:36:35 PM PDT by ChadGore (Piss off a liberal: Hire Someone.)
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To: WOSG
}The publisher otoh, is out 8 million and is likely making 60% of $28 (rest for distribution) or $16/book

On high volume like this figure a 50/50 split with retailers, or even as high as 60/40 to retailers on the higher profit hard back edition. That means over a million copies to pay for the advance. Big sales numbers are required to make this one work.

62 posted on 06/10/2003 3:58:40 PM PDT by DensaMensa (He who controls the definitions controls History. He who controls History controls the future.)
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To: Cacophonous
She will if she buys them herself.

You may have meant that in a joking manner, but I would not dismiss the possibility of 'bulk buying by special interest groups'.

63 posted on 06/10/2003 4:14:44 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: bert
Retail may be stated at $28 ,but am seeing 30% off stickers on the books.
64 posted on 06/10/2003 4:17:16 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: ChadGore
Agreed, we need to see that Ann's book is #1-2 ahead of Shrillary..
65 posted on 06/10/2003 4:20:27 PM PDT by ewing
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To: ewing
She'll sell them...she has a lot of chits to call in.
66 posted on 06/10/2003 4:23:46 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
I'm not sure, 1.1 million copies is a lot of chits..
67 posted on 06/10/2003 4:28:12 PM PDT by ewing
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To: ewing
"I'm not sure, 1.1 million copies is a lot of chits.."

The clintons are full of chit...

68 posted on 06/10/2003 4:30:53 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Zebra
See if you can spot the incorrect word:

NEW YORK (CBS.MW) - Sen Hillary Clinton's much-ballyhooed memoir, "Living History," is living up to the hype. The book set a Barnes & Noble (BKS: news, chart, profile) sales record for nonfiction books on its first day in the stores, the Associated Press reported, quoting sales figures released by the company. A Barnes & Noble spokeswoman wasn't immediately available for comment.

If you said nonfiction, you win!

I dunno, I find the term memoir highly suspect when used to describe a tome from and about someone who suffered from terminal CRS (Can't Remember S**t) Syndrome for the 8 years that are supposed to be the focus of this novel.

69 posted on 06/10/2003 4:36:17 PM PDT by Morgan's Raider (Perhaps the judge can translate Wolly Bully next?)
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To: Morgan's Raider
And don't ask me where that tag line came from - I have no idea. Anyway, heeeeeeeere it goes...
70 posted on 06/10/2003 4:43:40 PM PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: fight_truth_decay
Retail may be stated at $28 ,but am seeing 30% off stickers on the books.

Good point. Whose bottom line does this come off of, the publisher or the retailer?

71 posted on 06/10/2003 4:53:03 PM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: Morgan's Raider
LOL! Exactly. Okay. This is one of those self-esteem tests where every answer is correct!
72 posted on 06/10/2003 5:03:17 PM PDT by Zebra
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To: fight_truth_decay
I wasn't joking...either she or a stooge will bulk buy if necessary
73 posted on 06/10/2003 6:59:27 PM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: DensaMensa
thanx for info ... are you knowledge abou the publishing business? btw, do you know the other numbers any better? ie, manufacturing costs? and standard royalties?
Curious I am.
74 posted on 06/10/2003 8:21:36 PM PDT by WOSG (We liberated Iraq. Now Let's Free Cuba, North Korea, Iran, China, Tibet, Syria, ...)
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To: WOSG
}are you knowledge abou the publishing business?

I used to be in the book biz and knew the numbers by heart, but here's the best I can recall.  Note that like in all business EVERYTHING IS NEGOTIABLE.

Standard author royalty = 10% of list price but is quickly bumped to 15% to get a proven author, or one who has a decent agent, or for dual authors.

Another 15% goes for production costs:  author acquisition and hand holding, editing, typesetting, photography, cover art work, releases, etc.  This cost is all amortized over the first printing which makes subsequent printings 15% cheaper.

Another 10% goes for printing costs.  Add $1/book cost for a hard cover (a BIG profit item.)

Another 15% goes for marketing/promotion.  This could go higher to launch the first printing.
 

So here is how typical numbers might look for a quality $20 book:  This $20 book will be sold in small to medium quantities to retailers for 40% off the sticker price, or $12. (For large quantities they will demand 50-60% off sticker.  You can see why the incentive to sell by direct mail or whatever is very strong to escape the discounting.)

Author gets           $ 3

Production cost       $ 3

Printing cost         $ 2

Marketing cost        $ 2

That leaves $2 for the publisher to cover all other expenses including office, salaries, rent, utilities, travel, etc.  If there is anything left it is called PROFIT, on which taxes must be paid.  (Note that after the 1st printing there will be an extra $3/book available due to no Production cost.)

Across the industry, a first printing of 10,000 copies is considered large.  3,000 to 5,000 copies is more typical.  The definition of a "successful book" is one which sells out it's first printing thereby paying all the bills related to it.  Only a small percentage do so.

But let's assume a first printing of 10,000 copies.  (I never did smaller, and many were much larger.)  If completely sold out that would create gross revenue of $200,000.  At 40% discount the publisher would get $120, 000 to pay all the bills.

As publisher you will gouged mercilessly by the large retailers who will demand 90 to 120 days to pay you for the books they order.  Any books in their store which are not sold when payment is due will be carelessly dumped in boxes and shipped back to you to avoid payment.  These books will be damaged in the process of careless shipping so become worthless scrap.  But at the same time these same retailers will reorder the same books from you, again demanding with 90-120 days to pay,  to replace those they just returned to you.  For better placement in their stores expect to pay.

Publishing of books, magazines, newspapers and software is an extremely profitable business IF things go well and you have best sellers.  Once the up front producton costs are paid, it's just a matter of "duplicating" the product at a very low unit cost.  This is quite unlike being in the manufacturing business where the actual product cost is high.

Please note that my numbers are dated (and my memory probably defective), but I think the percentages and allocations are in line.  Hopefully the arithmetic added up. Maybe someone in book publishing today would care to tweak these numbers further.

Is this what you had in mind???

75 posted on 06/10/2003 9:52:23 PM PDT by DensaMensa (He who controls the definitions controls History. He who controls History controls the future.)
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To: ewing

"I would like to buy 1 million copies, sir. I pay cash in advance."

76 posted on 06/10/2003 10:01:35 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: DensaMensa
yes thanks!!!!
77 posted on 06/10/2003 10:05:30 PM PDT by WOSG (We liberated Iraq. Now Let's Free Cuba, North Korea, Iran, China, Tibet, Syria, ...)
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To: WOSG
}yes thanks!!!!

Are you looking to author or publish a book, or just curious?

78 posted on 06/10/2003 10:07:35 PM PDT by DensaMensa (He who controls the definitions controls History. He who controls History controls the future.)
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To: ewing
As if Bill and Hill are paying their legal bills! They aren't!
79 posted on 06/10/2003 10:11:52 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Uncle Sausage
.........but, how will the teamsters find the bookstores?
80 posted on 06/10/2003 10:15:20 PM PDT by breakem
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