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To: DoughtyOne
>>>Why don't you just give up on this topic? It obviously doesn't bother you a bit that Jews or Israelis are being blown to bits. The rest of us are on to you. Give it a rest.

What a liar, a phony and a fool you are. LOL That statement is not only ridiculous its a flat out lie and you have no proof whatsoever to back it up. There's not one iota of truth in it. Returning to this thread and reverting to more and more personal attacks against me, is not going to stop me from speaking my mind and engaging in my right to freedom of speech. I wouldn't think of demanding you stop speaking out, even though you continually sound like a big whiner. You should have left well enough alone. You're obviously a very immature rascal, starved for attention.

>>>What one single thing can you point out that Abu Mazen did, that is tangible at this point? Please, name just one.

Abu Mazen/Mahmoud Abbas hasn't done a thing. Now show me where I made a statement that says anything to the contrary? You can't. Another foolish statement by you!

>>>The answer is no to everything I asked.

Then why ask? LOL You have this propencity for answering your own questions. Why ask me in the first place?

>>>NO OTHER ENTITY has, yet you sit there at your keyboard typing out more mindless drivel that Sharon shouldn't have joined the peace process if he didn't mean business.

Face it, Sharon has done very little, but I agree he has done more then Abu Mazen. However, the most important part of the agreement that Sharon and Abu Mazen signed last week, was a pledge to stop all hostilities. You don't seem to comprehend that simple fact. Its easier for Sharon to halt hostiltiies, then it is for Abu Mazen right now. It might be an impossibility for Abu Mazen or anyone else to accomplish that feat on the Pali side. We shall see. The fact is, Israel is a valued ally of the US and when Sharon gave his word to PresBush, he should have kept it or he shouldn't have shown up at the meeting last week to join the peace process. I have nothing against Isarel defending herself and have said so numerous occasions. But when you give your word to President Bush, you should abide by it. Period.

>>>Yes some Palestinians were killed also. That's really too bad, but the reality is, Sharon tried to target members of the the third, fourth, to infinity terrorist groups that have sworn to carry out terrorism. He did not target Palestinians. This is totally lost on you.

There you go again, distorting the truth and fabricating your own reality. LOL The fact that Sharon targeted Hamas leaders with gunships and missiles in the middle of a crowded residential area, killing innocent people, doesn't show serious intentions of halting Israeli hostilities, as was the agreement he signed onto last week. An end to all hostilities means, an end to all hostilities. Period. The same goes for the Abu Mazen and the Palestinian side. The homicide bombing yesterday was one more outrage in a long line of outrageous killings that have been committed by terrorist groups like Hamas. In my opinion, at this point one thing is abundantly clear. The lines of distinction between who is the instigator and who is the retaliator, have become seriously blurred and that will not lead to an end to all hostilities. Get it?!

>>>Once more for the learning impaired, Sharon has attacked people who are members of terrorist organizations that have not signed on to the peace process. Do you understand that on any level?

The ties between terrorist groups and the Palestinian people are extremely strong. I'm surprised you actually deny this simple fact. At this point, any attack against Hamas, especially attacks that kill innocent people, is a direct attack against the Palestinian people. Its baffling to hear you conclude anything else. I see no good reason why anyone would want to distort the truth here.

>>>Sadly lacking in any of your posts is a condemnation of the terrorists. I beleive you did make one or two references to not liking that the terrorist attacks took place. You have attacked Ariel Sharon. You have attacked those who adovate Israel defend themselves. You have attacked those who think the terrorists should be taken out.

You know, I'm not PresBush. Stop trying to live out your fantasy lives vicariously through me. I realize you folks out there need a bogeyman to blame for everything and someone to take your frustrations out on, but find someone else. This isn't just boring, its a waste of my time. In that regard, understand why I won't be responding to your next round of lies, distortions and fabrications.

I understand this is a very emotional issue and you're one of the more emotional FReepers on the subject that I've encountered so far. When you let your emotions run wild, any hope for rational, logical and sensiable debate disappears immediately. In the last few days, I've told you and several others, to keep your emotions in check. I truly believe, the reason you people find it impossible for someone to disagree with you on this topic, is because you appraoch it from an emotional state of mind. I'm able to place my emotions aside and not get carried away. I control my emotions. You don't!

I suggest you stop running at the mouth with statements that bear no resemblence to the truth and stop fabricating your own reality. The only one whose embarassing themselves at this point, is you and other folks who let their emotions and personal feelings run wild.

This is a conservative debate forum, not a liberal whine feast.

180 posted on 06/12/2003 9:14:55 AM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man
When you let your emotions run wild, any hope for rational, logical and sensiable debate disappears immediately. In the last few days, I've told you and several others, to keep your emotions in check.

You're the cold fish who writes off the murder of 16 Israelis yesterday. You want some ******* collateral damage? Give me a count on the bus bombings. No comparison between that and an Israeli rocket attack to kill a Hamas killer. And before the head freak of Hamas, Rantissi, was targeted there was terrorism killing many Jews in the previous two weeks.

There are no bargains and peace treaties with Islamics. This is what you are oblivious to. You factor in Islamic demographics and there is zero chance of them honoring any peace of paper GWBush and "The Quartet" force Israel to sign. But then what do you care? Your agenda is to support everything GWBush does, right or wrong.

181 posted on 06/12/2003 9:25:03 AM PDT by dennisw
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