[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Does this count include the infractions by wealthy, influential students? LOL. In my opinion, those violations have been omitted as well. First the accounting scandal, now the public school administration integrity problem. "Honesty is such a lonely word...everyone is soooooo untrue...." Again, only the tip of the iceberg to which I've been alluding in other posts.

[theDentist]

Sounds like someone there needs to learn to multiply by 11.

[tupac]

I'll bet they have a strong, liberal teacher's union in Atlanta. Not to mention a sasquatch problem.

[Lazamataz]

Gwinnett County Schools reported 48,501 discipline incidents for the 2001-02 school year, according to an amended report to the state. That numbers dwarfs the 4,258 accounts of bad behavior Superintendent J. Alvin Wilbanks first reported to the state Department of Education.

That would be perjury, if anyone had to certify these numbers.

Of course, perjury no longer matters.

So long as you are a Democrat.

[Vigilantcitizen]

Used to be that a student fight was resolved by a trip to the principle's office for a quick 3 licks of the paddle and back to class you go.

Now, the cops are called and charges are filed.

I have relatives who have lived in Gwinnett county since before the depression.They have witnessed the transformation of a sleepy, rural community into what is now starting to turn into South Central L.A.

[Blueflag]

For those of us who live in Gwinnett County and are a little closer to the facts and DO NOT share the suburbia-bashing sentiment of the AJC, or the political ambitions of certain politicos in the Gwinnett school system, a different view of the facts are in order.

ALL (OK, 99.x %) incidents involving students being 'paneled' for infractions and incidents were indeed recorded in the database. (How else could they find the missing 40,000 +/- so accurately?). They were coded differently than perhaps guided by policy (I'll grant the Harpies that). Also, the way the data are recorded, it is difficult to readily derive multiple infracrtions from a single comma-delimited entry. So if you're looking to get really high numbers, you exercise the EXISTING data really hard to get the highest possible number of qualifying infractions. IF you want the lowest numbers, you code the infractions a little left of policy, but record ALL the infractions.

The data are NOT missing. They are there. The Supt. is not a bad guy. He has many long knives after him. The Gwinnett County Public school system is actually a pretty good one. Collins Hill High School (ours) is pushing 4300 students. There are bad eggs there. Same for Central/North Gwinnett/Parkview/Grookwood, etc., all BIG high schools. Creekland Middle School is/was the biggest in the nation. On big campuses with a large student population from 'diverse' backgrounds you have "incidents". In the old days, we handled our own disputes. Now the 'gummint' has to get involved and catalog everything for the lawyers.

So all things considered, this is not a school system with an order of magnitude discipline cover up "crisis." When confronted by the courageous investigator, the school system produced complete data. AS a parent of public school students, I was distressed by the outcome and the numbers, but not dismayed or driven into crisis mode.

So, lighten up.

[LiteKeeper]

School SITREP

[HitmanLV]

Makes me wax nostalgic about my troublemaking days as a youth in lower manhattan! [Chomping on my cigar in my Las Vegas apt, getting misty eyed!]

[Blueflag]

Hey Mene -- regarding the following ...

"Does this count include the infractions by wealthy, influential students? LOL. In my opinion, those violations have been omitted as well. First the accounting scandal, now the public school administration integrity problem. "Honesty is such a lonely word...everyone is soooooo untrue...." Again, only the tip of the iceberg to which I've been alluding in other posts."

I live here. LEave your class warfare crap at home please. I can tell you from FIRSTHAND knowledge that "wealthy influential students" got busted in Gwinnett County schools just like the poor powerless chilrun. We have Phoenix HS in Lawrenceville that is our reform school. You'd be amazed whose kids were reffereed there.

ALL the DATA were reported and saved. It was a matter of how they were coded, not what was hidden. WHY do you think it was so easy to fix??? ALL the data were there, public and available for the AJC reporter to look at.

Lighten up.

[mewzilla]

Superintendent J. Alvin Wilbanks

Any relation to the googly-eyed runaway bride?

[razorback-bert]

Gwinnett officials didn't feel 40 instances of "lewd sexual exposure" fit the state's "sex offense" category

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