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To: Mr. Silverback
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The simple mans idea of science.

What a relief that anyone without an education can claim understanding of that which they have no idea about.

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The way by which speaking in tongues and snake handling can finally be explained.

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6 posted on 06/09/2003 6:26:42 PM PDT by highpockets
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To: highpockets
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The way by which speaking in tongues and snake handling can finally be explained.

So accurate, so politically-Freeping-Incorrect.

Prepare for the Flames of the Ignorant!

14 posted on 06/09/2003 6:39:21 PM PDT by balrog666 (When in doubt, tell the truth. - Mark Twain)
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To: highpockets
The simple mans idea of science . . . The way by which speaking in tongues and snake handling can finally be explained.

If evolution is true, why do so many parents behave like they think their children are worthless? Since producing children capable of survival is the end goal of evolution, and humans represent the intellectual pinnacle of evolutionary development, why aren't more human parents more deeply concerned about the welfare of their children?

How does an evolutionary drive explain the human propensity for self-destruction and the destruction of one's legacy: drug addiction, homosexuality, abortion, suicide, child abuse, spousal neglect? According to evolutionary theory, these things should not be social problems. According to evolution, organisms are biologically programmed to seek survival and reproduction -- not self-destruction.

In other words, evolutionary theory is like communist economic theory. It works great on paper. It doesn't explain how society really works.

Whatever you can say about speaking in tongues (which I don't do) or snake handling (which I regard as silly), they are not as irrational or as widespread or as destructive as these ills of secular society which I have ennumerated above. Explaining the existence -- and widespread popularity -- of the phenomenon of Self-Destructiveness is a real problem for evolutionary theory.

It seems to me that the Bible has a better explanation for this modern phenomenon which might be called the Destruction of Personhood -- in that humans are spiritual beings and there is something deeply flawed in our spiritual natures -- ie, a lack of love -- which comes from our alienation from the God who is the true source of love.

And the theory of evolution, which denies not only God but love itself, is only the path to greater alienation and ultimately the very acts of self-destructiveness which deny the intellectual validity of evolutionary theory.

16 posted on 06/09/2003 6:59:26 PM PDT by JoeSchem (Okay, now it works: Knight's Quest, at http://wwwgeocities.com/engineerzero)
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To: highpockets
highpockets: blah blah blah, etc.

I'm so sick of you calling us stupid. Put up or shut your piehole. Where did you get your doctorate?

Ever heard of the late Dr. A.E. Wilder-Smith? He studied natural sciences at Oxford, earned his first doctorate (Physical Organic Chemistry) at Reading University, his second doctorate at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology, and his THIRD EARNED doctorate at the University of Geneva. Oh, and he was a creationist. Is HE stupid?

Your opinion isn't even worth a lengthy rebuttal. Go live in your fantasy world where everyone who agrees with you is a genius and those who don't are stupid.

19 posted on 06/09/2003 7:09:45 PM PDT by Genesis defender
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Flail away all you want... but if you think that matter has always existed.... and that order comes from disorder.... and symbiotic relationships just evolve.... and extreme intelligence (relatively speaking ) is a trait that one and only one species out of millions has been able to acheive through evolution ... then I'd say you're a man of great faith already.... and you just don't realize it.

Instead of ridiculing those with a different view, maybe you should re-examine your own position and realize that the your position is founded on assumptions whether your want to admit it or not (hmmm... like the false claim that there is no God, need I go on?)

20 posted on 06/09/2003 7:14:22 PM PDT by blue jeans
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"The simple mans idea of science. What a relief that anyone without an education can claim understanding of that which they have no idea about."

I have found any number of adherents to evolutionary theory who can't answer the simplest of questions. They just believe in it because some guys who claimed to be smart told them to.

Just goes to show there are believers on both sides of the issue that are simple and uneducated.

As to the other side of the coin, you know full well there are well educated men and women who adhere to the theory of ID. You would be disingenous to claim otherwise.

70 posted on 06/10/2003 6:35:35 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: highpockets
The simple mans idea of science.

What a relief that anyone without an education can claim understanding of that which they have no idea about.

Simple men like this?

A mathematician and a philosopher, William A. Dembski is associate research professor in the conceptual foundations of science at Baylor University and a senior fellow with Discovery Institute’s Center for the Renewal of Science and Culture in Seattle. Dr. Dembski previously taught at Northwestern University, the University of Notre Dame, and the University of Dallas. He has done postdoctoral work in mathematics at MIT, in physics at the University of Chicago, and in computer science at Princeton University. A graduate of the University of Illinois at Chicago where he earned a B.A. in psychology, an M.S. in statistics, and a Ph.D. in philosophy, he also received a doctorate in mathematics from the University of Chicago in 1988 and a master of divinity degree from Princeton Theological Seminary in 1996. He has held National Science Foundation graduate and postdoctoral fellowships. His articles have appeared in mathematics journals such as the Journal of Theoretical Probability, in philosophy journals such as Nous, in theology journals such as Epiphany, and in journals such as Perspectives that deal with science/faith interaction. He has published three books. In The Design Inference: Eliminating Chance Through Small Probabilities (Cambridge University Press, 1998), he examines the design argument in a post-Darwinian context and analyzes the connections linking chance, probability, and intelligent causation. His most recent book is Intelligent Design: The Bridge Between Science and Theology, which appeared November 1999 with InterVarsity Press.

85 posted on 06/10/2003 8:41:23 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: highpockets
The way by which speaking in tongues and snake handling can finally be explained.

Yes, we know, no supernatural job description is needed to stop biggots from being biggoted. Right?

88 posted on 06/10/2003 8:55:08 AM PDT by JudgemAll
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To: highpockets
The way by which speaking in tongues and snake handling can finally be explained.

My, isn't that pretty darn bigoted. Did you get your education on the relationship between science and religion from the Lisa Simpson Holier-And--Smarter-Than-Thou Correspondence School?

For every Creationist who doesn't know their science, there are ten evolutionists who worship a theory.

124 posted on 06/10/2003 11:43:09 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Sorry, I forgot to put a tagline here.)
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