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Bush Praised Pope Despite War Criticism ["one of the greatest moral leaders of our time"]
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| 6-8-2003
| Mike Reilly
Posted on 06/08/2003 11:12:07 AM PDT by Notwithstanding
NewsMax.com's religion editor Fr. Mike Reilly notes that relations between President Bush and Pope John Paul II remain warm despite their disagreement over the war in Iraq.
While Pope John Paul II joined the chorus of European critics urging President Bush not to make war on Iraq, Bush had nothing but praise for the Pope during his recent visit to Poland.
Zenit news reported that on the eve of Secretary of State Colin Powell's meeting with the Pope, President Bush told cheering crowds that, "At Wawel Cathedral in 1978, a Polish cardinal began his journey to a conclave in Rome, and entered history as Pope John Paul II -- one of the greatest moral leaders of our time."
"A young seminarian, Karol Wojtyla, saw the swastika flag flying over the ramparts of Wawel Castle," Bush said. "He shared the suffering of his people and was put into forced labor. From this priest's experience and faith came a vision: that every person must be treated with dignity, because every person is known and loved by God."
Meanwhile, Polish President Aleksander Kwasniewski took the opportunity to weigh in on the debate over the European Constitution.
While the Constitution acknowledges the contributions of the Greeks and the Romans, the framers ignore the influence of Christianity.
"I am an atheist and everybody knows it," he the London Telegraph this week. "But there are no excuses for making references to ancient Greece and Rome, and the Enlightenment, without making references to the Christian values which are so important to the development of Europe."
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KEYWORDS: bush; catholic; iraq; karolwojtyla; poland; pope; w; war; wawelcastle
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To: Notwithstanding
Simply one old socialist praising another old socialist.
They stick together.
To: RedBloodedAmerican
Do you pretend to consider the views
of the Soviet leader at the time the wall came down
on the importance of JPII in the fall of the soviet empire
to be unimportant?
To: Pyro7480; B Knotts; Notwithstanding
It has nothing to do with Orthodox anything. The Pope was helpful as much as he could but what brought down communisim was not the actions of the Vatican--on a list of top 10 things that did in the Eastern Bloc the influence of the Pope or the Vatican does not even make it on the list.
Proof of this is that the former Polish communists -reformed under a new name and party platform - ousted Solidarity and are in power now.
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06/08/2003 3:01:56 PM PDT
by
Destro
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To: Notwithstanding
Reply to 16, please? Thanks.
To: Notwithstanding
I don't pretend at all. I am just not as gullible as some. But, I also don't practice idolatry and false worship, so maybe that explains the gullible part, I don't know.
To: Notwithstanding
Didn't get excited about Gorbasms then, don't get excited about them now.
And speaking about PBS, please list all the references to specific acts of Karol Wotyla requiring personal courage before his papacy, and name the witnesses to those - you know, the resistance cells he led, messages he carried loud denunciations of the policies of his government, that sort of thing.
Or is it that he's got a good spin machine?
To: Chancellor Palpatine
Oh, way more than stick together. Way more. Easy to find, do a search on "Pope+gorbachev". Makes you sick!
To: Chancellor Palpatine
Good old palpy - President Bush heaps tremendous and sweeping praise upon the Pope and it gets under your collar.
To: P-Marlowe; sinkspur
FYI
To: Chancellor Palpatine
btgw, perhaps if bothered to go to the link I posted you would find that your question is wholly a non-sequitur as regards anything I have posted. I even pointed this out in the preface to the link. Why can't respond to what is posted?
To: RedBloodedAmerican
Such a search produces crapola from "scholars" with your mindset, which you then use to justify your spew. Talk about spin!
To: RedBloodedAmerican
There is nothing to repsond to.
You are baiting about a contradiction that does not exist.
I agree with post #3.
To: Notwithstanding
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