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Bush Praised Pope Despite War Criticism ["one of the greatest moral leaders of our time"]
Newsmax ^ | 6-8-2003 | Mike Reilly

Posted on 06/08/2003 11:12:07 AM PDT by Notwithstanding

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To: Notwithstanding
Simply one old socialist praising another old socialist.

They stick together.

21 posted on 06/08/2003 3:01:01 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Do you pretend to consider the views
of the Soviet leader at the time the wall came down
on the importance of JPII in the fall of the soviet empire
to be unimportant?

22 posted on 06/08/2003 3:01:05 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Pyro7480; B Knotts; Notwithstanding
It has nothing to do with Orthodox anything. The Pope was helpful as much as he could but what brought down communisim was not the actions of the Vatican--on a list of top 10 things that did in the Eastern Bloc the influence of the Pope or the Vatican does not even make it on the list.

Proof of this is that the former Polish communists -reformed under a new name and party platform - ousted Solidarity and are in power now.

23 posted on 06/08/2003 3:01:56 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Notwithstanding
Reply to 16, please? Thanks.
24 posted on 06/08/2003 3:06:08 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Notwithstanding
I don't pretend at all. I am just not as gullible as some. But, I also don't practice idolatry and false worship, so maybe that explains the gullible part, I don't know.
25 posted on 06/08/2003 3:07:46 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Notwithstanding
Didn't get excited about Gorbasms then, don't get excited about them now.

And speaking about PBS, please list all the references to specific acts of Karol Wotyla requiring personal courage before his papacy, and name the witnesses to those - you know, the resistance cells he led, messages he carried loud denunciations of the policies of his government, that sort of thing.

Or is it that he's got a good spin machine?

26 posted on 06/08/2003 3:08:16 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Oh, way more than stick together. Way more. Easy to find, do a search on "Pope+gorbachev". Makes you sick!
27 posted on 06/08/2003 3:08:37 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Good old palpy - President Bush heaps tremendous and sweeping praise upon the Pope and it gets under your collar.

28 posted on 06/08/2003 3:18:09 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: P-Marlowe; sinkspur
FYI
29 posted on 06/08/2003 3:20:35 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
btgw, perhaps if bothered to go to the link I posted you would find that your question is wholly a non-sequitur as regards anything I have posted. I even pointed this out in the preface to the link. Why can't respond to what is posted?
30 posted on 06/08/2003 3:21:09 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Such a search produces crapola from "scholars" with your mindset, which you then use to justify your spew. Talk about spin!
31 posted on 06/08/2003 3:23:22 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
There is nothing to repsond to.
You are baiting about a contradiction that does not exist.

I agree with post #3.
32 posted on 06/08/2003 3:25:29 PM PDT by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/880275/posts
33 posted on 06/08/2003 3:25:47 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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"The position of the Vatican and American Bishops has been very clear against the war. In the church's mind there has not been the sort of imminent threat that would justify a preemptive and unilateral strike"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/877520/posts
34 posted on 06/08/2003 3:27:01 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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