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President Bush vs. The G-d of Israel
Women In Green - By eMail ^ | Sunday June 8 2003 | Ruth and Nadia Matar

Posted on 06/08/2003 4:07:35 AM PDT by Brian Allen

Charles Krauthammer, a famous national syndicated columnist, pointed out in a recent article that President Bush, at Sharm-el-Sheikh, put the prestige of the United States presidency on the line for the sake of Arab-Israeli peace.

As usual, he got nothing in return from the Arabs.

What Krauthammer failed to point out, however, is that by the Bush Administration supporting and pressuring Israel to accept the Road Map, President Bush is defying the Will of the G-d of Israel.

In the Book of Joel (Joel 4:2) the Bible speaks very harshly about those who "divided up My land." When President Bush calls for dividing up the Promised Land into an Arab and a Jewish State, he is defying what is clearly set forth in the Old Testament.

He is setting himself up as someone who is in opposition to the Will of the G-d of Israel. He thereby exposes those who live in the United States to the punishment that is certain to follow.

"I will bless those who bless you and him who curses you, I will curse?" (Genesis: 12:3)

Apparently, President Bush is willing to submit to the pressures of Saudi Arabia. The Saudis use their great oil wealth to pressure the U.S. against tiny Israel, without themselves abandoning their hatred of Israel and the Jewish People.

Because the United States now has a large oil supply available since its conquest of Iraq, one would think that it would be less submissive to Saudi dictates.

Whatever the reason for cowering to Saudi Arabia, President Bush, the U.S. State Department and the Saudis would be wise to avoid the certain punishments that are to follow the disobeying of the wishes of the G-d of Israel, who is the L-rd of the Universe.

Jerusalem, June 8, 2003


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel
KEYWORDS: bush43; roadmap; waronterrorism; womeningreen
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To: SubMareener
4. A non-terrorist Palestinian state is established Judea, Samaria and the Gaza District.

Not possible. Where there are muslims, there are terrorists.

41 posted on 06/08/2003 10:11:18 AM PDT by majordivit
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To: Brian Allen
Ideas have consequences and none more so than scripture wrongly interpreted.
42 posted on 06/08/2003 10:19:43 AM PDT by Maigret
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To: Just mythoughts
Sorry to burst your bubble, but things are not going to happen as you seem to predict. Isreal is over and done with as far as God is concerned, and by that I mean physical Isreal. If they reject His son, they also reject the Father. The old Law was nailed to a cross. Any Jew that doesn't "pick up their cross" and follow Christ is unfortunately in the same boat as Athiests, Buddhists, and Pagans. It's all right there in the New Testament for anyone to read.
43 posted on 06/08/2003 10:31:08 AM PDT by Windsong
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To: KKing
May I ask why people do that here?

It is an easy ways for the Christian Pharasees within the to imply how righteous they are, as they cull verses out of context to condemn any and all who dare not agree 101% with their interpretations. Yes, Bush is the antichist and the rapture is tomorrow, the proof being that if you take a map of Israel and draw a line from X to Y, subtend it by Z, loop it 6 times at 66 degrees of curvature, draw 7 x 70 parallel lines at .0666 inch intervals, you get what looks like a picture of Beelzebub if you squint. Basically substitute a map of Israel for a Ouji board, but somehow the stories of Simon the Sorcerer, Jacob's wife clinging to the household idols, and warnings against false prophets are ignored by these self-annointed biblical palmreaders astrologers code translaters.

44 posted on 06/08/2003 10:33:49 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: majordivit
You think Turkey is a terrorist state?
45 posted on 06/08/2003 10:34:19 AM PDT by SubMareener
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To: KKing
May I ask why people do that here?

It is an easy ways for the Christian Pharasees to imply how righteous they are, as they cull verses out of context to condemn any and all who dare not agree 101% with their interpretations. Yes, Bush is the antichist and the rapture is tomorrow, the proof being that if you take a map of Israel and draw a line from X to Y, subtend it by Z, loop it 6 times at 66 degrees of curvature, draw 7 x 70 parallel lines at .0666 inch intervals, you get what looks like a picture of Beelzebub if you squint. Basically substitute a map of Israel for a Ouji board, but somehow the stories of Simon the Sorcerer, Jacob's wife clinging to the household idols, and warnings against false prophets are ignored by these self-annointed biblical palmreaders astrologers code translaters.

46 posted on 06/08/2003 10:34:20 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: SubMareener
You think Turkey is a terrorist state?

All true muslims are instructed in their book the Koran to 'kill them (non believers) whereever you find them'. There are no moderate muslims. How many Turks supported Bush eradicating Hussien from Iraq? I'm sure you noticed those lovable Turks stoning the Americans when they came by to invesitigate an errant missile. The only 'moderate' muslims are ones who do not follow the teachings of the Koran. Therefore their are no moderate muslims.

Over the years muslim Turkey has made war on the much smaller country of Greece. The Greeks are very good fighters and have turned back Turkey's constant attempts to conquer Greece and to wipe them out.

47 posted on 06/08/2003 10:44:23 AM PDT by majordivit
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To: majordivit
Well! Now we know where you are coming from!
48 posted on 06/08/2003 10:56:14 AM PDT by SubMareener
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To: Windsong; dighton; Brian Allen; Just mythoughts; majordivit; Alouette; dennisw; yonif; ...
Sorry to burst your bubble, but things are not going to happen as you seem to predict. Isreal is over and done with as far as God is concerned, and by that I mean physical Isreal. If they reject His son, they also reject the Father. The old Law was nailed to a cross. Any Jew that doesn't "pick up their cross" and follow Christ is unfortunately in the same boat as Athiests, Buddhists, and Pagans. It's all right there in the New Testament for anyone to read.

That must be why the Apocalypse was written to the Church, and the 144,000 marked with the seal of God are from the tribes of Israel.

Isaiah was right about you people when he said:

By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

Ecclesiastes 3:1-2 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;

I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow, saith the church of Jezebel. That reminds me of a screen name I've seen around here, "Release the hounds".

49 posted on 06/08/2003 11:31:19 AM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (Guten Tag!)
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To: Just mythoughts
Now it is also written that some are blinded and some are sent strong delusions so that they would believe a lie and some who actually know don't care and then some have eyes to see and ears to hear.

. . . that would be Hillary?

50 posted on 06/08/2003 11:32:31 AM PDT by Phil V. (back to DOS 3.2)
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To: Brian Allen
6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

Is that your take on this passage???!!! IT'S A SECRET???!!!

WOW! All this time I thought that it meant that God would sooner hear a whispered or even silent paryer from a person secreted within a closet that the PUBLIC RANTINGS AND GESTICULATIONS . . . BLASTINGS FROM TV's . . . I thought it meant that a silent prayer - unspoken - from a pure heart had more of a chance for an audience with God than public prayer.

51 posted on 06/08/2003 11:42:39 AM PDT by Phil V. (back to DOS 3.2)
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To: Brian Allen
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52 posted on 06/08/2003 11:49:14 AM PDT by verity
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To: Just mythoughts
}Somebody please tell me who has been the greatest nation of all recorded history and which nation has fed the world and which nation that all families of the earth have been blessed by?

That sounds like the good Old US of A to me.

53 posted on 06/08/2003 11:52:12 AM PDT by DensaMensa (He who controls the definitions controls History. He who controls History controls the future.)
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To: DensaMensa
Somebody please tell me who has been the greatest nation of all recorded history and which nation has fed the world and which nation that all families of the earth have been blessed by?

This nation became great when it began honoring God and stopped treating the Jews like dirt. It's now reversing those actions, and will lose its greatness.

54 posted on 06/08/2003 12:46:54 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh
}It's now reversing those actions, and will lose its greatness.

Well, since nothing seems to please I suppose they could send the money back and we could call off the whole thing. There is a limit to how choosy beggars can be.

55 posted on 06/08/2003 1:03:56 PM PDT by DensaMensa (He who controls the definitions controls History. He who controls History controls the future.)
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To: DensaMensa

Somebody please tell me who has been the greatest nation 
of all recorded history and which nation has fed the
world and which nation that all families of the earth 
have been blessed by?

This nation became great when it began honoring God 
and stopped treating the Jews like dirt. It's now 
reversing those actions, and will lose its greatness.

aimhigh, you might want to read from this link . . .

Big Jewish Leaders Tear the Road Map Into Little Pieces by Philip Weiss

. . . then consider the question, "Which Jews would President Bush (and this nation) be treating like dirt if he (this nation) were to 'kiss of' the roadmap."

56 posted on 06/08/2003 1:30:08 PM PDT by Phil V. (back to DOS 3.2)
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To: Brian Allen; All
Hmmmm? What if President Bush - already knew the Road Map wouldn't work ...?? What if he did it just to PROVE that the Arabs don't want a separate state - what they want (and have always wanted) is the destruction of Israel.

What if Sharon knows this too ...?? What if Sharon and Bush have agreed to do this to PROVE once and for all that the Arabs have no standing ...?? What if the whole thing is just an opportunity to give Israel an increased right to defend itself ...??

Now ... don't misunderstand ... this doesn't mean that Bush wasn't sincere in his desire to have peace for Israel and the Palentinians. However ... our President is a realist - I'm confident he has no illusions about what Arafat and his minions are doing.
57 posted on 06/08/2003 1:34:41 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: Thinkin' Gal
<< .... was right about you people when .... >>

What means: "you people?"

Please explain.
58 posted on 06/08/2003 3:03:06 PM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Maigret
There is no "right way" to interpret Scripture.

Like all Law, Scripture is intended to be believed and to be obeyed, not to be "interpreted!"
59 posted on 06/08/2003 3:05:52 PM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Phil V.
<< Is that your take on this passage? It's a secret? >>

No.
60 posted on 06/08/2003 3:08:51 PM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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