President Bush vs. The G-d of Israel

Women In Green - By eMail ^ | Sunday June 8 2003 | Ruth and Nadia Matar

[Brian Allen]

Charles Krauthammer, a famous national syndicated columnist, pointed out in a recent article that President Bush, at Sharm-el-Sheikh, put the prestige of the United States presidency on the line for the sake of Arab-Israeli peace.

As usual, he got nothing in return from the Arabs.

What Krauthammer failed to point out, however, is that by the Bush Administration supporting and pressuring Israel to accept the Road Map, President Bush is defying the Will of the G-d of Israel.

In the Book of Joel (Joel 4:2) the Bible speaks very harshly about those who "divided up My land." When President Bush calls for dividing up the Promised Land into an Arab and a Jewish State, he is defying what is clearly set forth in the Old Testament.

He is setting himself up as someone who is in opposition to the Will of the G-d of Israel. He thereby exposes those who live in the United States to the punishment that is certain to follow.

"I will bless those who bless you and him who curses you, I will curse?" (Genesis: 12:3)

Apparently, President Bush is willing to submit to the pressures of Saudi Arabia. The Saudis use their great oil wealth to pressure the U.S. against tiny Israel, without themselves abandoning their hatred of Israel and the Jewish People.

Because the United States now has a large oil supply available since its conquest of Iraq, one would think that it would be less submissive to Saudi dictates.

Whatever the reason for cowering to Saudi Arabia, President Bush, the U.S. State Department and the Saudis would be wise to avoid the certain punishments that are to follow the disobeying of the wishes of the G-d of Israel, who is the L-rd of the Universe.

Jerusalem, June 8, 2003

[Brian Allen]

<< Methinks you cannot recognize sarcasm when you see it. >>

Or that, it being late and all -- and that you're a little weary -- that mine's a bit subtle for Y'All?

[Brian Allen]

<< Matthew 6: insists what to be so? >>

It's a secret.

[battlegearboat]

horse feathers!

[KKing]

I get it... we are supposed to be so God fearing that we can't spell His/Her name?

[Just mythoughts]

Well Christ said "I have foretold you all things", so somebody is making up or twisting things if what you find in Matthew 6 a "secret".

Now it is also written that some are blinded and some are sent strong delusions so that they would believe a lie and some who actually know don't care and then some have eyes to see and ears to hear.

[chicagolady]

My girl friend who is a Messianic Jew has told me that whenever the leaders of Nations have come together to divide the land...at the same time all sorts of great Natural disasters start to happen. She said the news paper would cover the talks and right next to it on the front page was a great disaster, tornado, hurricane, Earth quake etc.

I thought that was very interesting, she is in her 60's so she has seen it over the years.
We will wait and see!

[Just mythoughts]

He also so says that the majority will be deceived and He also says that He knows what man thinks without speaking.

The author has left out the fact that Judah and Samaria (ten lost tribes, lost to themselves) were separate, and that our Heavenly Father divorced Israel and it will be His doing not man who makes all things right.

Israel was not even born when this promise was made to Abram, and Abram had other children besides Issac. Abram's name was changed.

[Brian Allen]

6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

It's a secret.

As is the identity of "The Greatest Nation of all Recorded History and which Nation has fed the world and which Nation that all families of the earth have been blessed by."

Not.

Or, perhaps, don't go looking for Zion -- or for God. Last time I checked neither -- except to those so blind they WILL not see -- was lost!

Get it yet?

And did you hear the one about Judgement?

[pilgrim]

Gee which Bible is being quoted here my King James does not have a Joel 4:2. Try Joel 3:2. ."...........and parted my land" :o)

[pilgrim]

Off </b></b> bold.

[grumple]

I can't stand pe-ple wh- have an aversi-n t- spelling G-d -r L-rd. I'm s-rry, it must be an aversi-n t- typing the letter -.

For Christ's sake!! It's GOD and LORD. For one so worried about Bible prophecies one sure has a hard time typing HIS name....

[Just mythoughts]

The instruction being given here is how to give and to pray, another place it is said that those who have eyes to see and ears to hear don't even know what to pray for.

So we are told not to pray so everyone sees us praying, it is supposed to be between the individual and our Heavenly Father through Christ.

There is a big "secret" and it is that very "secret" that will deceive the masses. On the other hand that "secret" is not a "secret" to those who have eyes to see and ears to hear. According to what is written there are not very many who have "eyes to see" and "ears to hear". The majority has never been right nor will they be today or in the near future.

One cannot stop at Genesis 12 and make it a delaration of whom is whom and what is what and where is where, one must read the rest of the story to be able to get the pieces of the whole picture, which in this flesh body we can only see a glimpse.

Interesting that it is Written that some are willingly blind and others are blinded for their own protection.

I still can't find Joel 4:2 which removes all credibility from the author of this article. We don't get to make our own understanding and most people are toooooo good to believe what is actually written they make up their own path.

[Brian Allen]

<< For one so worried about Bible prophecies one sure has a hard time typing HIS name.... >>

Thank you, One, for sharing that one.

However, not being given [one] to personal attack nor [next one] response to it nor [last one] to malicious gossip, I shall have to ignore what I can see -- and take your word about that one, One.

Or rather about those two, One.

About your [one] being so worried AND [next-one] having a hard on etyping His Name.

As for me?

I just post 'em as they come, eh?

[grumple]

The "One" I was referring to WAS the author of the article. This was not a personal gibe at you as the poster. I've seen this before as if spelling out God or Lord is some sort of abomination. It's liked calling our President "Mister Bush". Relax a bit.

[TLBSHOW]

Interesting and I will be sure to keep tabs on the weather.

PS
The road map is a joke!

[freedom9]

"Somebody please tell me who has been the greatest nation of all recorded history and which nation has fed the world and which nation that all families of the earth have been blessed by?"

I'm guessing you are refering to the nation that was founded by those fleeing religous persucution, they that sought to follow the dictates of the God of Israel in a new land.

[crazykatz]

ping

[majordivit]

President George W. Bush's evil decision to place brutal pressure on little Israel to accept the creation of a PLO terrorist state in the Jewish Biblical lands of Judea, Samaria and the Gaza District will bring devastating Heavenly punishment on America.

The Bush "road map" in the Middle East is a plan for the destruction of Israel which includes:

Israel must retreat to the suicidal pre-1967 borders. The Bush "road map" explicitly embraces terrorist Saudi Arabia's demand that Israel withdraw to the pre-1967 boundaries which are only 6 to 10 miles wide, and which even the extreme left-wing Abba Eban referred to as "Auschwitz lines." Another leftist, Golda Meir, once said that any Jew who supports a retreat to the pre-1967 borders is guilty of "treason."

Israel must completely surrender her sovereignty as an independent nation. The Bush "road map" establishes a "Quartet" of the United States, the United Nations, the European Union and Russia, all of whom will decide when the Israel Defense Forces can act to defend the Jewish State. The Quartet will also dictate all other aspects of Israeli policy regarding immigration, security, trade, taxation and border controls. In other words, Israel will not be a free and sovereign nation, and will have to allow the Arab world to destroy the Jewish homeland, unless the Israelis can get permission from the Jew-hating Quartet to defend themselves — permission which, of course, they will never receive.

A fanatically anti-American, anti-Christian, anti-Israel and anti-Jewish PLO terrorist state must be established in Judea, Samaria and the Gaza District. This PLO terrorist state will be a dagger in the heart of tiny Israel. Israel is surrounded by 22 Arab nations and Iran, which have a combined population of 270 million Muslims against only 5 million Jews. The Arabs have more than 600 times the territory that the Jews have. With a 23rd Arab terrorist state being created in Israel's very heartland, the Jewish nation will be rendered defenseless.

If the American people tolerate this anti-Israel and anti-Bible Bush Administration policy, G-d will continue to destroy America demographically and morally — a process of internal destruction that has been under way in the U.S. since the 1960s.

America will lose her white majority very quickly and will descend into the abyss of Third Worldism.

For the one thing G-d will never tolerate is an attempt to harm Israel:

And I will bless them that bless thee and him that curseth thee shall I curse. (Genesis 12)

And in thy seed shall all the nations be blessed. (Genesis 22)

But thou should not have gazed on the day of thy brother in the day of his disaster; neither should thou have rejoiced over the children of Judah in the day of their calamity.... Neither should thou have stood in the crossway to cut off those of his that escape; neither should thou have delivered up those of his that did remain in the day of distress. For the day of the L-rd is near upon all the nations; as thou hast done it shall be done unto thee, thy dealings shall return upon thine own head. (Obadiah 1)

For thus saith the L-rd of Hosts who sent me unto the nations that despoil thee: "Surely he that toucheth you, toucheth the apple of My eye." (Zechariah 2)

Behold at that time I will deal with all of them that afflict thee. (Zephaniah 3).

Naturally, the decision by the wicked Sharon Government to accept the Bush "road map" to a new Holocaust is an enormous sin and a crime against G-d and His commandments. The Likud, the National Union Party and the National Religious Party have all decided to remain part of the Sharon regime of treason, surrender and suicide. The only Israeli party that has been loyal and faithful to the Land of Israel, the State of Israel and the People of Israel is the Herut (Liberty) Party of Michael Kleiner and Baruch Marzel.

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[SubMareener]

Let me explain the strategery to you.

1. Israel and the "moderates" in the Palestinian Authority accept the "road map". Check
2. Hamas, and the rest reject the "road map". Check
3. Israel with the help of the US and "moderates" in the Palestinian Authority destroy Hamas, et. al.
4. A non-terrorist Palestinian state is established Judea, Samaria and the Gaza District.