[Henrietta]

Yes, I realize that he was shot first. But once your life is no longer in danger, you don't get to shoot the perp.

Look, I agree that society is better off because these scumbags are off of the street. The point of my post is that if an ex-cop can do this, why can't the ordinary Joe? If this guy were not an ex-cop, you can bet that the D.A. would be looking very hard at criminal charges for the victim for shooting his attackers in the back while they were fleeing (which is basically revenge, not self-defense).

Why do cops and ex-cops have more rights than the rest of us?

[Leisler]

If you abanden the law for crime and enter a state of lawlessness, then the law should be no protection. For a moment of time it was the law of the jungle, and these punks got jungle justice.

[joesnuffy]

Didnt know they had CCW for citizens..in Detroit...
cool....

[Hacksaw]

Didn't think it would take long for the cop haters to find a problem with this. You people are morons and I would take a cop over you any day.

[Mark]

Maybe he thought he would die and was just "marking" them for evidence.

[toddst]

. . . I realize that he was shot first. But once your life is no longer in danger, you don't get to shoot the perp.

Please notice this man gave these scum what they demanded and he was shot anyway. Once he had been shot everything else he did was self-defense. He had no assurance some of these slugs wouldn't attack him again.

The first rule of survival in a situation like this is to fire until your adversaries are no longer a threat.

This is well understood by anyone who has been in a firefight.

[xm177e2]

once your life is no longer in danger, you don't get to shoot the perp.

When you're gut-shot, your life is in danger.

[Mulder]

If this guy were not an ex-cop, you can bet that the D.A. would be looking very hard at criminal charges for the victim for shooting his attackers in the back while they were fleeing (which is basically revenge, not self-defense).

Yep. Especially in a metropolitian cesspool such as Detroit. They'd probably charge the serf with murder-2.

But despite the double standard, nothing should happen to this guy for defending himself.

[marktwain]

Yes, I realize that he was shot first. But once your life is no longer in danger, you don't get to shoot the perp.

Look, I agree that society is better off because these scumbags are off of the street. The point of my post is that if an ex-cop can do this, why can't the ordinary Joe? If this guy were not an ex-cop, you can bet that the D.A. would be looking very hard at criminal charges for the victim for shooting his attackers in the back while they were fleeing (which is basically revenge, not self-defense).

They mistake being made here is to assume that they were "fleeing". They had already shot him. No citizen can or should assume that a criminal with a gun is "fleeing". It is just as likely that they are merely attempting to get in a better tactical position from which to fire at you some more.

If a person with a club is running away from you, you might be prudent to assume that he is "fleeing". It is not prudent to assume so if they have a gun. In general, the courts have held that you should not shoot a person who is fleeing from you. However, juries generally do not expect you, as a reasonable person, to be able to shoot someone in the direct front in a dynamic gun fight. If you legitimately fear for your life, as this CCW holder did, the police and jury will almost always find your actions to be reasonable.

[Chemist_Geek]

If this guy were not an ex-cop, you can bet that the D.A. would be looking very hard at criminal charges for the victim

He may yet. Wayne county Prosecutor Mike Duggan is vehemently anti-self-defense. Under Michigan law, a CPL holder is entitled to carry "a concealed pistol." In contract law, "a" means one.