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Ex-Official: Evidence Distorted for War
AP via Excite News ^ | Jun 7, 6:18 AM (ET) | JOHN J. LUMPKIN

Posted on 06/07/2003 7:15:11 AM PDT by leadpencil1

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1 posted on 06/07/2003 7:15:11 AM PDT by leadpencil1
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To: leadpencil1
Time will tell.
2 posted on 06/07/2003 7:24:31 AM PDT by gitmo (What noise annoys a noisy oyster most? A noisy noise annoys a noisy oyster most!)
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To: leadpencil1
o A. Greg Thielmann '72 After earning his bachelor's degree in political science, with honors, A. Greg Thielmann went on to work for then-Congressman John Culver. He studied international affairs at the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs at Princeton, then entered the United States Foreign Service where he has compiled a distinguished service record during a career of 25 years. Although he has filled a variety of assignments, he has been most deeply involved in arms control and security issues. He is currently acting director of the Strategic, Proliferation, and Military Affairs Office in the Bureau of Intelligence and Research at the State Department.

What do you wanna bet Culver is/was a Dem?

3 posted on 06/07/2003 7:26:34 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: leadpencil1
The Africa claim rested on a purported letter or letters between officials in Iraq and Niger held by European intelligence agencies. The communications are now accepted as forged, and Thielmann said he believed the information on Africa was discounted months before Bush mentioned it.

This whole d*mn thing is sounding more and more like a plot from Twenty Four. Where was Jack Bauer during all of this?

4 posted on 06/07/2003 7:30:32 AM PDT by templar
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. . . Greg Thielmann, who retired last September. . . .

. . . Thielmann was director of the strategic, proliferation and military issues office in the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research. . . .

. . . Although his office did not directly handle terrorism issues, . . .

What a pathetic article. It's almost as if they wrote a story to justify a headline.

5 posted on 06/07/2003 7:30:55 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: leadpencil1
whatever
6 posted on 06/07/2003 7:39:06 AM PDT by fml
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To: mewzilla
You got it. Iowa Dem who served in the House 1965-75 and in the Senate 1975-81.

http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=C000979
7 posted on 06/07/2003 7:39:49 AM PDT by Heatseeker
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To: mewzilla
Culver was a Dem Congressman and later senator from Iowa and his son Chet is the Iowa Secretary of State and has higher political ambitions. John Culver was JFK's college roomate.
8 posted on 06/07/2003 7:40:46 AM PDT by babaloo
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To: gitmo
In Thielmann's view, Iraq could have presented an immediate threat to U.S. security in two areas: Either it was about to make a nuclear weapon, or it was forming close operational ties with al-Qaida terrorists.

Obviously, this guy did not recognize Al Qaida as an immediate threat until the planes were crashed into the buildings. With a track record like that, he should learn to STFU.

I think he's angling for a cushy job at the new democRAT stink tank.

9 posted on 06/07/2003 7:41:02 AM PDT by 300winmag
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To: Heatseeker
Thanks! Wish Powell would drain the swamp over there. Sigh.
10 posted on 06/07/2003 7:41:44 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: babaloo
Yup, sounds like Thielmann fit right in over at Foggy Bottom.
11 posted on 06/07/2003 7:42:41 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: leadpencil1
We need to know the truth about this. Everyone should put aside their pre-conceived notions and demand congress investigate and find the truth. We must demand that the investigation not be a white wash.

It is to everyone's long term best interests to get the truth out and not blindly follow your leader. Remember that history will know the answer with full certainty.

Even loyal Republicans must get in front of this and assure themselves with facts, not with party loyalty of their position or risk hurting the Republican party for a generation. Think back to Watergate. Do you want 10 to 15 years of unchallenged Democratic rule because the public is disgusted with Republicans?

Let us all urge Senator Pat Roberts of Kansas, the chairman of the relevant committee, to put aside his party loyalty long enough to determine the truth without bias or white wash.

12 posted on 06/07/2003 7:44:44 AM PDT by Mike4Freedom (Freedom is the one thing that you cannot have unless you grant it to everyone else.)
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You didn't want to go to war at all ,did you?
13 posted on 06/07/2003 7:48:25 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: leadpencil1
Now that these people are going to be coming out of the woodwork saying the CIA, Pentagon and the President lied about Iraq and WMD, my question to them is this. Why did you wait so long to raise the red flag? Why didn't you resign in protest? If people truly believed that the whole world was being set up by faulty evidence and lies then you should have said something a lot sooner. Therefore I take all this with a heaping helpful grain of salt.
14 posted on 06/07/2003 7:53:17 AM PDT by ReaganRevolution
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To: Mike4Freedom
Trust a Congressional committee?! Not in this lifetime :)
15 posted on 06/07/2003 7:54:46 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Mike4Freedom
Back in 1998 the Democrates were giving all the same reasons for taking out Saddam, and in 2003 it finally happened. History will show Pres. Bush did what the country ( at least many in the Democrate Senate) wanted Clinton to do.
16 posted on 06/07/2003 7:55:08 AM PDT by fml
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To: ReaganRevolution
Agreed. Any undertaking this large and complex (the war with Iraq) provides a mountain of details with which to twist and interpret to favor one side or the other. This is like real-time revisionist history.
17 posted on 06/07/2003 7:58:06 AM PDT by leadpencil1
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To: ReaganRevolution
Great question!
18 posted on 06/07/2003 7:59:29 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: mewzilla
Right - it should be an independent commission. Big names, all that crap. What will emerge is a sound case for taking out Sadaam from the months immediately after Desert Storm ended. Now who took action and who sat with his cigar up his intern for 8 years? Hmm... This will be like Enron. Set the scope large enough to include the Sink Emperor and the Dems will drop it like a hot potato.
19 posted on 06/07/2003 8:01:40 AM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: leadpencil1
The admisistration should have anticipated this problem and had all the answers read to shoot it down. Many of us here knew that this type of criticism was coming and that the Dems would keep attacking.
20 posted on 06/07/2003 8:02:04 AM PDT by Consort
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