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Death certificates opened for Laci Peterson and son
Contra Costa Times ^ | Posted on Sat, Jun. 07, 2003 | Brian Anderson and Claire Booth

Posted on 06/07/2003 5:43:07 AM PDT by runningbear

Death certificates opened for Laci Peterson and son

Posted on Sat, Jun. 07, 2003

Death certificates opened for Laci Peterson and son

By Brian Anderson and Claire Booth
CONTRA COSTA TIMES

MODESTO - The Contra Costa County Coroner's Office could not determine a cause of death for Laci Peterson, but concluded that her son was born dead.

The coroner lists Peterson's manner of death as homicide. Death certificates for the 27-year-old and the son with whom she was eight months pregnant were made public late Friday.

A judge agreed earlier in the day to allow release of the documents, but kept sealed the results of the two autopsies.

During two hours of courtroom wrangling, Stanislaus County Superior Court Judge Al Girolami told Scott Peterson's defense lawyers and the prosecutors who have charged him with the murders of his wife and child that the report will remain sealed until a preliminary hearing.

The death certificates were filed in Contra Costa County on Friday. Signed April 21, they are the official record of Laci and Conner Peterson's deaths.

The filings do not mean the remains will be released to Laci Peterson's family. A court order requires the coroner's office to retain custody of the remains until told otherwise by a judge, said coroner's spokesman Jimmy Lee.

Laci Peterson's family does not know when that will be, said family spokeswoman Kim Petersen. "It's a very tough time for them," she said Friday.

The death certificates contain the time and place of death. For Laci Peterson, the coroner's office specifies the date she was found on the Richmond shoreline, April 14.

Conner Peterson was found a day earlier. That is specified on his fetal death certificate, along with where he was found along the Richmond shoreline. Fetal death certificates have no category for a cause of death. Conner's does specify that he was born dead.

Cable news station MSNBC reported last week that a leaked portion of the autopsy reports showed that Conner was found with 11/2 loops of tape around his neck.

Legal analysts have surmised the information could be used to back a defense theory that a satanic cult played a role in Laci Peterson's disappearance and slaying.

It also was widely believed that the defense team had a hand in leaking the autopsy to bolster its case with the public, an allegation attorney Mark Geragos adamantly denied.

The autopsy had been sealed May 15 at the request of both defense attorneys and prosecutors. After last week's leak, the Stanislaus County District Attorney's Office asked that the entire report be unsealed.

Deputy district attorney David Harris told Girolami on Friday the leaked details provided a "significant slant" in favor of the defense. "We can't discuss inaccuracies or accuracies without violating the court order," he said.

Girolami said the results will not be unsealed. "I don't think that releasing the report at this time is necessary. The mere fact that someone has leaked out part of the report does not justify releasing all of it."

In other matters, Girolami told lawyers for 22 reporters that a state law does not protect calls and conversations they placed to Scott Peterson. Authorities wiretapped Peterson's phone before his arrest and alerted journalists last month that they had been taped.

Scott Peterson, 30, was arrested April 18. His wife, who was eight months pregnant, vanished Dec. 23 or 24 from her Modesto home.

Peterson could be executed if convicted;..................................

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Autopsies Kept Sealed in Laci Peterson Case

Autopsies Kept Sealed in Laci Peterson Case

Fri June 6, 2003 07:19 PM ET

By Tim Wimborne
MODESTO, Calif. (Reuters) - A judge refused on Friday to make public graphic autopsy reports for Laci Peterson and her unborn son, rebuffing press efforts to unseal key documents in a murder case that has riveted the nation.

The parents of the 27-year-old substitute teacher left the Stanislaus County courtroom when Superior Court Judge Al Girolami began discussing whether to release the autopsy, grim details of which have already surfaced in media reports.

Laci's husband, Scott Peterson, 30, who is charged with two murders and could face the death penalty if convicted, has pleaded not guilty.

During the autopsy discussion, Peterson, who has shown little emotion during the proceedings, dabbed his eyes with a tissue and appeared grim-faced, swallowing hard several times.

"This is not about adverse publicity," Peterson's attorney Mark Geragos told the court in opposing the release of the autopsies. "I'm worried about my client's life."

Geragos has argued against releasing many of the documents in the case, saying that to do so would increase the already high public hostility toward his client.

Judge Girolami said leaks to the press of some details from the coroner's reports were not a justification to release the entire document. Prosecutors in the case had withdrawn their objections to the report's release.

The judge, however, refused to authorize a gag order on lawyers in the case and authorized the Contra Costa County coroner to prepare and release death certificates for Laci and her unborn son, that might list a cause of death.

Officials have not publicly stated how they believe Laci Peterson died, and have released few details of the case they have against Peterson.

WASHED ASHORE

The two decaying corpses washed out of San Francisco Bay in April, prompting Peterson's arrest. Coroners worked for weeks on the bodies, saying the advanced state of decomposition made their job especially difficult.

A law enforcement official told Reuters on Friday that plastic was wrapped in the area of the neck of the unborn baby when it was found along the Contra Costa high-tide shoreline, but said it could well have been from trash rather than a clue to the murder.

"There is a lot of junk in the sea, maybe that's what it is," the official said.

San Francisco television station KTVU quoted law enforcement sources on Friday as saying Laci Peterson may have been drugged with a so-called date rape drug to weaken her before being strangled........

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Media Won't Hear Scott Peterson Wiretaps

Media Won't Hear Scott Peterson Wiretaps
Judge Rejects Reporters' Requests to Hear Wiretaps of Husband in Laci Peterson Murder Case

The Associated Press

MODESTO, Calif. June 6 —

The judge in the Laci Peterson murder case on Friday rejected requests by reporters to listen to wiretaps of phone calls they made to Scott Peterson.

Attorneys representing 22 reporters had asked to review to tapes of their calls to Peterson so they could determine if they might be barred from becoming evidence.

The lawyers said those conversations were protected under the California Shield Law, which protects reporters from turning over unpublished work. They claimed the wiretaps are the same as journalists' notes.

But Stanislaus County Superior Court Judge Al Girolami said he did not think journalists were entitled to any privilege protecting their phone calls. He did, however, delay for 10 days the release of the tapes.

Girolami's ruling came during the first hour of a hearing in which he also set a June 19 date to rule on defense motions regarding wiretaps of Peterson's calls. The judge was also expected to begin considering a prosecution motion to unseal results of an autopsy on the bodies of Laci Peterson and her unborn son, Conner.

Scott Peterson's lawyers want the judge to dismiss the prosecutors assigned to the case and to toss out the results of two wiretaps that monitored thousands of Peterson's calls after the disappearance of his pregnant wife, Laci.

During the court-approved wiretaps, the first of which began two weeks after Laci Peterson vanished when investigators thought they had exhausted normal evidence-gathering techniques, police logged 3,858 phone calls made to her husband, according to court papers.

Some of those conversations will be questioned by defense lawyers, who claim police eavesdropped on protected conversations between Scott Peterson and his lawyer.

Girolami will also consider issuing a gag order to prevent evidence leaks in the case and he may decide whether to release autopsy results of Laci Peterson and her unborn son. Prosecutors have said they support some form of a gag order, while defense lawyer Mark Geragos said in court paper that he opposes any effort to curtail discussions about the case.

Peterson, 30, has pleaded innocent to two counts of murder for ....................

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Judge keeps documents sealed in Peterson case

Judge keeps documents sealed in Peterson case

BEE STAFF REPORTS

Published: June 6, 2003, 12:49:07 PM PDT

A judge kept under wraps many documents and other evidence in the Peterson double-murder case Friday. During a discussion of autopsy reports, defendant Scott Peterson - who is charged with killing his pregnant wife, Laci, and their unborn son, Conner - dabbed his eyes with a handkerchief.

Stanislaus County Superior Court Judge Al Girolami:

Kept sealed autopsy reports on both bodies.

Ordered the Contra Costa County coronor’s office to issue death certificates.

Kept sealed wiretap recordings. He allowed prosecutors and defense attorneys to get copies of the tapes, but temporarily prohibited the handing over of calls between Peterson and journalists. Prosecutors also are not allowed to hear calls between Peterson and his defense team.

Delayed a decision on a potential gag order preventing principals ...................

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To: Sandylapper
>>I'm probably just really overreaching here, AAID, about the theobromine, but wonder if it could be available in say a powder/liquid form, and put in a nice hot cup of chocolate before bedtime. Because theobromine is derived from cacoa beans, maybe the chocolate flavor would not be altered, and one might drink a hot cup of cocoa without noticing a thing. Now, it might not kill, but might it render a victim incapacitated and unable to defend oneself<<

Theobromine is *already* in chocolate or anything derived from cocoa beans. It is naturally occurring in these things much like caffeine is.

Like caffeine, theobromine is a somewhat *inert* ingredient. It is a mild diuertic (makes a person pee) and a mild stimulant. Caffeine does the same things. That's pretty much all theobromine does to people.

Theobromine has no ability to knock a person out or disable them. In fact, as a stimulant (even though mild) it does the opposite--keeps a person awake and slightly agitated.

381 posted on 06/09/2003 6:05:45 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: RGSpincich
"Hello, pro shop? Hi, this is Scott Peterson. I had an 8:30 tee time. Well, I've got to cancel. Bit of a mess here to clean up... thanks. Catch you later..."
382 posted on 06/09/2003 8:38:32 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: An American In Dairyland
Ohhhhh, o.k. I did know that caffeine was a stimulant and diuretic, but it just seems so unreal that theobromine can kill domestic pets and have no effect on human beings, even in "overdoses". You know what I mean--alcohol won't kill human beings taken in certain quantities, but still I have known people who died from alcohol poisoning. Of course, alcohol is a depressant while caffeine is a stimulant. But I do understand what you're saying, and believe you to be correct. Just trying out a new theory on how Scott might have killed Laci and wondering outloud. :o)
383 posted on 06/09/2003 8:44:29 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: CurlyDave
But wait, now, CD, about his telling Amy he had that early tee time. There was supposedly more to the story. Supposedly he remarked to her about this tee time, as Amy cut his hair, on the late afternoon of 12/23. And Laci would have been sitting right there. B/C Laci went with him to Salon Salon, where Amy worked.

Amy had some Christmas fruit basket which she had to pick up the next day. So Scott offered to pick up the fruit basket for her. I think Amy got a call during the day on the 24th, from whoever had the fruit basket, complaining that it still hadn't been picked up.

No, I don't think this particular thing about the tee time was any sort of pointed lie to an in-law. There's something funny about the whole thing. Why would he lie to Amy about picking up the fruit basket, when he knew darn well she could call him on it next time she saw him? (Unless maybe he KNEW that, contrary to everyone's belief, he WASN'T going to be having dinner at the Rochas' on Christmas Eve.)

I am not saying he is innocent, but there is no hard evidence of guilt

Exactly! None that we know of, at any rate!

The parking ticket thingie, I think I heard it had a time of about 1:00 p.m., or 1:30 p.m. Do you know that they've said that only 5 people used that parking lot that day? B/C it was Christmas Eve, and the water was choppy, and no one was going out, apparently.

I still think there's room for the possibility that Scott had already gotten rid of Laci during the night, and that he simply drove to Berkeley so he could say he'd been there, and get the time-stamped parking ticket. It came from a machine. You just put in a 5-dollar bill. No parking attendant involved. Perhaps Scott dumped Laci in the bay during the night. Maybe he threw her weighted, wrapped body off a bridge. Who knows? Then maybe he decided to go back there to "fish" the next day--actually to reassure himself that the weights had worked, and that she wasn't just floating around in the bay in plain sight.

But now, when you say there's an innocent explanation for all his weird after-the-fact behavior, I don't know. His selling of her car almost immediately? Hard to explain. I've got clothes of my mother's that no one here can wear, and she died a natural death two years ago! His asking a realtor--only about one or two weeks after she disappeared, mind you--about how he might sell the house? And he directed this question to the realtor while AT THE SEARCH CENTER!! Guilty of extremely bad taste, at the very least!

He absolutely shunned the camera for about the first week or two. Kept the hat pulled down over his eyes; he was never filmed without the ball cap, not once, during the time b/f it became known to him that Amber had connected with the police. He was clearly hiding from Amber when being filmed on TV. Even shaved the sides of his head. You couldn't see ANY of his hair in the shots of him back then, thanks to the cap and the shaving of the sides of his head.

If he's been selling Laci's jewelry all along, that will certainly be very telling. And at least one person has been quoted as saying, "Scott would tell us he was going out to put up missing person fliers, then we found out he was actually going to play golf." Wish I'd saved those articles.

Scott refused to sit with any of the family at the New Year's Eve candlelight vigil, and was photographed looking like he was at a frat keg party. That's how big a grin he had. It was obvious that he'd been exchanging jokes with someone nearby. That was only one week after Laci disappeared.

We will soon know if it's true that Scott kept calling Amber right through the whole early missing persons alarm and beginning search. I have heard that he did, and furthermore that, since Amber wasn't supposed to know he was married, Scott was just his usual self with her; not a single mention of his missing wife. Just things as usual.

He's been caught in so many lies, Kim VRWC's has been able to make a website about them all! And we're still counting.

So, we'll see. We don't have the hard evidence yet, but it begins to look like we will see some before this is over.

384 posted on 06/09/2003 9:03:56 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Canadian Outrage
Excellent point: about how if the clothes the people said she was wearing were found at her home. I picture the people describing them (perhaps from what they saw on the missing posters) and then the prosecutor holding them up and saying, "Did it look like this?" And the witnesses saying unknowingly, "Why, yes, just like that!"
385 posted on 06/09/2003 9:06:31 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: CurlyDave
If the tabloids are to be believed, that ain't the only ugly, scaly, slimy critters he ever brought home!
386 posted on 06/09/2003 9:07:46 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
Did you hear on the Greta show tonite that some body parts were found in some water area south of Modesto? They are testing to see if it is animal or human and gender etc. Would it be something if the parts belong to Laci? Off hand they ( the talkingheads anyway) said it appears to be bones of an older person.

I didn't see the vigil at which SP sat apart from family and was grinning like he had listened to a joke. I hope the prosecutors are reading some of this stuff here.

The talking head lawyers on Greta are sounding more and more for the defense. And I am tired of the polls too indicating that MG is having an effect with all his theories.

387 posted on 06/09/2003 9:20:07 PM PDT by celtic gal (If he is guilty I hope they hang him high)
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To: CurlyDave
You must have had your child in the mid 70's...that was the "thing" at the time. And it was good ...it educated women as to what to expect during delivery. Lamaze is good but but you are not a wimp if you need pain killers during delivery. Most do not, some do and some need to be "put out".
388 posted on 06/09/2003 9:22:04 PM PDT by MissL
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To: celtic gal
Oh, that picture of Scott laughing at the candlelight vigil is all over the web! There he is--and with the ball cap, of course! In the early days of the case, I swear, I don't even think he removed the ball cap when he went to bed! Someone here noticed he stopped wearing it just at the time he found out Amber was known to the police; they said it was pretty obvious that he was hiding from the cameras so Amber wouldn't see him and put two and two together about who he really was. At that point I said, DUH! I had been too slow to realize that till the poster pointed it out.

I THINK I've heard about this particular set of body parts. I think that's in Davis, CA. It's about 90 miles from Modesto. I was disappointed to hear that they now think the body parts are from 4 different people, b/c that makes it unlikely Laci's just "one of the crowd" of people whose body parts were in that dumpster. (They said it was a dumpster.) Supposedly they are testing to see if these parts came from grave-robbing. That shd be easy to tell: they'd have been embalmed.

They are also considering the possibility that the body parts are from some lab or medical school, and just weren't disposed of according to law. Yecchh!
389 posted on 06/09/2003 9:30:14 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: oceanperch
I don't know if any one said this but...maybe Scott gave Laci the "drug" to induce labor and a "miscarrage". If I am not mistaken that drug results in some memory loss or confusion. If Scott was rid of the baby he was rid of another "expense". If he divorced Laci, no child support....think about it...that is a big motive !!!
I believe he did not really want to kill Laci but he did want to be rid of the baby...easy to divorce a wife but a baby is an expense for life and Scott is a selfish man, easy to see.
390 posted on 06/09/2003 9:33:42 PM PDT by MissL
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To: Devil_Anse
We will soon know if it's true that Scott kept calling Amber right through the whole early missing persons alarm and beginning search. I have heard that he did, and furthermore that, since Amber wasn't supposed to know he was married, Scott was just his usual self with her; not a single mention of his missing wife. Just things as usual.

I have heard on TV and seen remarks here on the threads, that there were some 3900+ phone calls taped (received or placed from SP's house) in a span of one month, wasn't it? Some 130 calls per day. Of those 3900+ calls, how many were to Amber? Have you heard a number?

391 posted on 06/09/2003 9:41:55 PM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Sandylapper
Nope, I haven't heard. I'm still having trouble just comprehending that many calls in one month.

Surely that count includes calls to/from more than one phone. Actually, I'm starting to think that maybe that count includes calls which were not actually answered, maybe? I could see media types making that many calls to Scott's phone numbers. Yes, that's definitely something I could picture. It would be like having all the telemarketers in the world concentrating on YOUR phones. I have no doubt that the media types are absolutely shameless about calling anyone.

But... it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
392 posted on 06/09/2003 10:19:18 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: allyoop77
I believe we have now covered that...Speculative opinioun ...
393 posted on 06/10/2003 2:46:51 AM PDT by oceanperch (Airbrush Hillary out of Politics.)
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To: Sandylapper
>>it just seems so unreal that theobromine can kill domestic pets and have no effect on human beings, even in "overdoses". <<

Humans can't really overdose on theobromine. But cocoa and chocolate products can be toxic or lethal to dogs, cats, and other animals because animals metabolize theobromine much more slowly than humans do. Onions are like that with cats, too. Very harmful to cats but no problem for humans.

Alcohol poisoning would be different, too. But the most people can get from eating too much cocoa or chocolate is an upset stomach or weight gain. I have never heard of a person ingesting an overdose of chocolate.

I suppose Scott could have poisoned Laci but it would have had to have been done with some other chemical and some posions do not remain in the body long or show up in an autopsy on "fresh" remains. In remains in the condition that Laci's are in it would be even iffier as to whether the autopsy could reveal them.
394 posted on 06/10/2003 8:29:01 AM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: An American In Dairyland
What the heck happened to all the posts on this thread?? Yikes!
395 posted on 06/10/2003 8:30:14 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: bonfire
>>What the heck happened to all the posts on this thread?? Yikes! <<

Apparently Tapu and Allyoops77 were banned and their posts were removed.
396 posted on 06/10/2003 9:33:18 AM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: celtic gal
I re watched the show and the body parts found were not in a body of water south of Modesto but in a dumpster. And they were described as similar to those missing on Laci.
397 posted on 06/10/2003 10:06:50 AM PDT by celtic gal (just gotta keep the record straight)
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To: MissL
Interesting idea but for the fact that Laci was 8 months and at this point, even if she were to go into labor a month early the baby could survive. My niece was due in March..on the 6th and had the baby Feb 10th ( wasn't that Laci's due date?)

Oh one other tidbit I heard I think on Hannity who had that loud mouth Joe Tacapina and I forget gal lawyer's name ( she wasn't allowed 2 words anyway) but the gossip is that Amber is reported to have been pregnant by Scott..new twist here. Don't know the source but the host of the show and the others who have heard the tip through the grapevine don't like it. I think they may think this scoop is coming from the scumbag that wants to print the pics of Amber...give us the naked truth so to speak....:-O

398 posted on 06/10/2003 10:13:12 AM PDT by celtic gal (just gotta keep the record straight)
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To: Devil_Anse
I heard someplace ( most likely on FOX) that Scott made calls from 3 different cell phones.
399 posted on 06/10/2003 10:14:37 AM PDT by celtic gal
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To: celtic gal
Gotta get some work done..be back to catch up on the updates.
400 posted on 06/10/2003 10:17:18 AM PDT by celtic gal
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