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Methodist leaders to Bush: Repent - (Barf Alert!)
World Net Daily ^ | 6/6/03

Posted on 06/06/2003 7:46:27 PM PDT by areafiftyone

A group of leaders from President George W. Bush's denomination, the United Methodist Church, have signed a magazine ad asking the chief executive to "repent" of what they consider policies "incompatible" with Christian teaching, reports the Christian Times.

The group of 120 signatories to the document, entitled "A Prophetic Epistle from United Methodists Calling Our Brother George W. Bush to Repent," includes seven United Methodist Church bishops.

"It is our judgment that some policies advanced by your administration give evidence of the spiritual forces of wickedness that exist in our society today," the ad read, according to the report.

The signers also include two UMC leaders who were arrested during an anti-war protest in Washington, D.C., this year. They claim Bush is "threatening the very earth and all its inhabitants with open discussion of the usage of nuclear weapons."

The Methodist leaders don't think much of Bush's domestic policies, either, saying they are "incongruent with Jesus' teaching" because they allegedly lack the kind of compassion Jesus taught, said the Christian Times report.

Mark Tooley, director of the United Methodist committee of the Institute on Religion and Democracy, tells the paper it is the 120 who signed the document who are veering from the church's teachings – not Bush.

"Bush is supposedly a bad Christian and a bad Methodist because, like most Methodists, he does not agree with these church officials in their equation of compassion with a large federal welfare state and in their opposition to a strong military defense for America," Tooley said. "These United Methodist officials are effectively telling the president he is not a good Christian because his policies do not match their own left-wing beliefs."

The leaders include men who have denied the divinity of Jesus Christ and endorse same-sex marriage, Tooley told the paper.

According to the report, the White House says the president respects the views of those placing the ad but does not agree with them,.


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Bush is supposedly a bad Christian and a bad Methodist

It is not for them to judge Bush. It is God who will judge him in the end. These people have no right to judge him! Bush is doing an excellent job as president and NO Religious leader should tell him what is right or wrong in running this country!

1 posted on 06/06/2003 7:46:27 PM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone
The Methodist leaders don't think much of Bush's domestic policies, either, saying they are "incongruent with Jesus' teaching" because they allegedly lack the kind of compassion Jesus taught, said the Christian Times report.

They have one hell of a nerve talking about compassion. If these people had their way, Saddam Hussein & Sons would still be raping, torturing and murdering with abandon.

2 posted on 06/06/2003 7:51:21 PM PDT by alnick ("Never have so many been so wrong about so much." - Rummy)
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To: areafiftyone
. . .and all these moralists are active 'pro-Lifers'right'?
3 posted on 06/06/2003 7:53:03 PM PDT by cricket
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To: areafiftyone
>> The leaders include men who have denied the divinity of Jesus Christ and endorse same-sex marriage <<

And people claim the leaders of the Catholic church are liberal.... hmmm...

Sounds like the Methodists have been completely hijacked by a bunch of loonies.

4 posted on 06/06/2003 7:55:51 PM PDT by BillyBoy (George Ryan deserves a long term...without parole.)
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To: cricket
and...support AIDS proliferation, too?
5 posted on 06/06/2003 7:55:56 PM PDT by goodnesswins (FR - the truth, and nothing but the truth.........getting to the bottom of journalistic bias.)
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To: areafiftyone
More propaganda from the cult of the UMC, sub chapter of the NCC, and preacher of abortion rights and gun banning.
6 posted on 06/06/2003 7:56:02 PM PDT by dts32041 ("The avalanche has started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.")
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To: cricket
I assume so. I am a catholic and I don't know who these people are.
7 posted on 06/06/2003 7:56:19 PM PDT by areafiftyone (The U.N. needs a good Flush!)
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To: BillyBoy
Sounds like the Methodists have been completely hijacked by a bunch of loonies.

I agree. Bad enough the catholic church has its problems now we have Methodist nutjobs!

8 posted on 06/06/2003 7:58:09 PM PDT by areafiftyone (The U.N. needs a good Flush!)
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This is why I left the United Methodist Church years ago. I couldn't get an intelligent discussion on the bible any longer. The sermons were all concerning the Communists in Central and South America and how terrible America was.

Pure 60's pap.

Becki

9 posted on 06/06/2003 7:58:12 PM PDT by Becki (Pray continually for our leaders and our troops!)
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To: areafiftyone
They should remove the board from their own eyes before they complain about the splinter in anothers eye !
10 posted on 06/06/2003 7:58:56 PM PDT by OREALLY
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To: Becki
Well I can't say the Catholic Church is any better with all those horrible things that the priests have been doing. Seems like alot of religions are being hijacked!
11 posted on 06/06/2003 8:00:08 PM PDT by areafiftyone (The U.N. needs a good Flush!)
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This radicalism among United Methodist leaders must be highly embarrasing to those Methodists who believe in the Bible as God's Word and who support traditional Christian values.
12 posted on 06/06/2003 8:02:04 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: areafiftyone
After a lot of searching, I wound up at a very nice Church of the Nazarene. Biblical sermons, salt of the earth congregation.

But I went to a lot of "churches" before I found it.

Becki

13 posted on 06/06/2003 8:03:33 PM PDT by Becki (Pray continually for our leaders and our troops!)
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To: areafiftyone
This is a reason why I left the Methodist Church because the hierarchy is a bunch of leftist holdovers from the 60s. At my former church the then new pastor preached about how the evil Jews were killing the poor Palestinians (this was at a Christmas Eve service a couple years ago). The bishop here in Chicago is the absolute worst he said that Jesus did not rise from death.

I'm now a member at an Evangelical Lutheran Church were the Bible is preached, not liberalism. I will never again step into a Methodist Church until they get their act together.

14 posted on 06/06/2003 8:05:37 PM PDT by Dengar01
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To: Wallace T.
This radicalism among United Methodist leaders must be highly embarrasing to those Methodists who believe in the Bible as God's Word and who support traditional Christian values.

It is. There are several movements (Tooley from IRD being part of one) within the UMC to bring the church back to her Wesleyan roots. I have several friends who are UM pastors. They are fighting the good fight, but it is an uphill struggle.

15 posted on 06/06/2003 8:09:08 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.crimsonblog.com - updated today!)
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To: areafiftyone
I'm a Methodist and I think that GWB should tell these detractors to go straight to hell. My church done been hijacked by socialist morons......
16 posted on 06/06/2003 8:19:49 PM PDT by yooper
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"I assume so. I am a catholic and I don't know who these people are."

We're the ones who allow our spiritual leaders to marry, in order to save them from looking like an idiot. Looks like we failed....

17 posted on 06/06/2003 8:23:14 PM PDT by yooper
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To: areafiftyone
The Scribes and Pharicees, have spoken-who cares?
18 posted on 06/06/2003 8:26:35 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Mama's there is a lot worse things than cowboys, you can let your babies grow up to be.)
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To: yooper
Well it looks like Priests who cannot marry are no better. Not that I am sticking up for these Methodists but I have been horrified and embarassed by the Catholic Church lately. In this day and age I say if want to be a religious leader and you can't go by the rules that god laid down for you then GET OUT OF THE CHURCH - No matter what church it is!
19 posted on 06/06/2003 8:27:51 PM PDT by areafiftyone (The U.N. needs a good Flush!)
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Hmmm, I might show up down at my old church (Methodist) for the first time in 36 years and get a good chuckle on Sunday. In the late '60's, they tore down a very nice old wooden church that had been there since 1868 and put up one of those godawful post-modernist, cement architectural lumps.

An event fraught with portent.

20 posted on 06/06/2003 8:28:33 PM PDT by skinner
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