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To: Jack Black; yarddog; Noumenon; Mulder; 45Auto; Squantos; harpseal; archy
Anybody know if the FBI is still using their 10mm H&K MP-5s?

They bought a couple thousand on a one time production run a few years ago.

I work this into the plot of my book, when 10mm brass is found near a shooting and it leads back to the feds.

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Seems like 10mm's okay ballistically, but is it so superior to the .45? If it's not, why to to all the added hassle of dealing with an oddball round?

Of course, if oddball rounds are your thing, more power to you.

I think .357, 9mm, .40S&W, .44 special, .44magnum, and .45 all provide shooters with plenty of defensive options, and there are hundreds of guns chambered for them.

The jury is still out on 10mm and .357SIG. Time will tell if they have earned a permanent niche.

23 posted on 06/06/2003 8:58:35 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Do not have a 10MM Travis !.........hard to believe huh, but true. Don't have one, don't need one. Of course need was never a requirement for a gun'o'the month club purchase.

Know lots of folks who use it to hunt with in performance center S&W's N frames.. Good whitetail deer , wild pig caliber I'm told.

Not sure if FiBi's or BatFag'eeeeee's are toting em .

Stay Safe !

25 posted on 06/06/2003 9:10:22 PM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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To: Travis McGee
Seems like 10mm's okay ballistically, but is it so superior to the .45?

At 25 meters, the 10mm bullet [180] is travelling faster than a .45 round at the muzzle. Velocity is not the whole story, of course, but the 10mm is certainly an interesting development, and like the .45 ACP, as nicely usable in revolvers as in semiautos.

Among its shortcomings is that it can be brutal to machinery adapted to it rather than purpose-designed for it, as per the Colt Delta Ten. But it's interesting too for it's usability in handgun-carbine or handgun-SMG combinations.

And back when the Norma factory loadings appeared, I ran across a AKM kalishnikov adapted to the 10mm cartridge, interesting but I'm not certain as to the exact requirements the user had in mind for the one-off custom work, with a very nice Lothar Walther target barrel pretty much wasted in an AKM action. But the 7,62x39mm AK cartridge necked out to 10mm also has interesting possibilities....

-archy-/-

37 posted on 06/07/2003 10:55:19 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: Travis McGee
I saw an FBI agent using a 10mm H&K about November of last year on a government range. i believe they have not changed but that was the last check point I can give.
39 posted on 06/07/2003 11:22:40 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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