[Just another Joe]

The steam roller moves on.

You just sound so gleeful that patrons and owners are being stripped of libertys and rights.
Why are you not a member of some statist organization? Or ARE you?

[VRWC_minion]

You just sound so gleeful that patrons and owners are being stripped of libertys and rights.

It will keep happening until smokers change their image. The private property argument is getting creamed in the political market place. Its getting trumped by the effect of SHS on employees.

Your arguments are being made that the SHS isn't really harmful and that the owners rights are being violated and the politicians are not buying.

You need a new tactic. The current ones have failed. Until you get a new set of tactics the steam roller will keep in rolling town by town and state by state.

[austinTparty]

Just look at the rhetoric... state as steam-roller. I find that fitting. Rolling right over private property rights, individual liberty and anything else in its path. The juggernaut of the state.

You have to remember, that for some people, being right-wing merely means that they believe in "law and order" and their own version of government-imposed social values, not individual rights, natural law or liberty.