[VRWC_minion]

You just sound so gleeful that patrons and owners are being stripped of libertys and rights.

It will keep happening until smokers change their image. The private property argument is getting creamed in the political market place. Its getting trumped by the effect of SHS on employees.

Your arguments are being made that the SHS isn't really harmful and that the owners rights are being violated and the politicians are not buying.

You need a new tactic. The current ones have failed. Until you get a new set of tactics the steam roller will keep in rolling town by town and state by state.

[Just another Joe]

Its getting trumped by the effect of SHS on employees.

What effect? Prove your point or STFU.

[kevao]

Until you get a new set of tactics the steam roller will keep in rolling town by town and state by state.

And behavior by behavior. Don't think they'll stop at smoking bans.

[Liberal Classic]

The private property argument is getting creamed in the political market place.

You're right, and this is not the only area in which private property rights are being eroded. Thanks for not helping.

[Dan from Michigan]

The problem is that smokers and private property rights aren's as organized as your public health fascist buddies.