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To: Hodar
Here are eleven of the most toxic.

This list is a joke!!!!!

Acetone - A flammable, colorless liquid used as a solvent. It's one of the active ingredients in nail polish remover. The tobacco industry refuses to say how acetone gets into cigarettes.

Nail Polish Remover!!!! If it's so toxic than every women whoever changed nail colors would suffer serious health problems. Acetone is also used on eggs and used to extract spices So if we are to ban smoking in bars because of Acetone than we must ban them from cooking eggs or using any spices on their food. 

Ammonia - A colorless, pungent gas. The tobacco industry says that it adds flavor, but scientists have discovered that ammonia helps you absorb more nicotine - keeping you hooked on smoking.

Ammonia is also used for cleaning, Ammonia is also naturally produced in our body and is often sweated out. If we are to ban smoking because ETS contains Ammonia than we also must ban bars/restaurants from ever cleaning their floors and we must prohibit the room temperature from ever getting to warm.   

Arsenic - A silvery-white very poisonous chemical element. This deadly poison is used to make insecticides, and it is also used to kill gophers and rats.

Arsenic is a heavy metal that is found in trace amounts in almost all water drinking or otherwise.

Tobacco like all plants needs water to grow so any plant will contain trace amounts Arsenic, So if we are to ban smoking in bars/restaurants because of Arsenic than we must also ban them from serving anything with water (and since all plants used water to grow all fruits and vegetables must be also banned to.

Benzene - A flammable liquid obtained from coal tar and used as a solvent. This cancer-causing chemical is used to make everything from pesticides to detergent to gasoline.

Benzene is in gasoline and it takes 4695 cigarettes smoked just to equal 1 gallon of gas burned.(I will do the math for you at the end of this post). So just the fact that cars spewing exhaust are pulling up to or just driving by the place guarantees benzene will be in the air. If we are going to ban smoking in bars/restaurants because ETS contains Benzene than we have to ban cars and trucks from ever getting anywhere near them.

Benzoapyrene - A yellow crystalline carcinogenic hydrocarbon found in coal tar and cigarette smoke. It's one of the most potent cancer-causing chemicals in the world.

One of the most potent cancer causing chemicals in the world huh? If we are going to ban smoking in bars because ETS contains Benzopyrene than we have to ban the burning of EVERYTHING!!! NO more internal combustion engines, No more fireplaces, No more Candles and NO more cooking of any food. All bars/restaurants must now only serve Raw food. Every organic compound in the universe that is burned releases Benzoapyrene.   

Butane - A hydrocarbon used as a fuel. Highly flammable butane is one of the key ingredients in gasoline.

Found in Gasoline again. But notice no toxic properties are listed, The reason is IT ain't toxic. 

It Also found in natural gas so if So if we are to ban smoking in bars/restaurants because of Butane than we must ban them from frying any foods. Butane is also used as a propellant in many aerosol cans so they must be banned to, Dam the ozone layer lets go back to using CFCs. 

Cadmium - A metallic chemical element used in alloys. This toxic metal causes damage to the liver, kidneys, and the brain; and stays in your body for years.

Same as Arsenic above, Though this one is found in also in milk so we also must ban that

Formaldehyde - A colorless pungent gas used in solution as a disinfectant and preservative. It causes cancer; damages your lungs, skin and digestive system. Embalmers use it to preserve dead bodies.

If we are going to ban smoking in bars because ETS contains Formaldehyde than we must also ban alcohol because when your body breaks down alcohol the main breakdown product is Formaldehyde which along with it being broken down in your liver you do expel an amount of it in your breath and sweat. You also produce formaldehyde for many other bodily functions

And I really hope these non-alcoholic bars/restaurants aren't in a place that is to hot or to cold because formaldehyde is used to make insulation so that must be also banned 

Lead - A heavy bluish-gray metallic chemical element. This toxic heavy metal causes lead poisoning, which stunts your growth, and damages your brain. It can easily kill you.

Same as Arsenic above

Propylene Glycol - A sweet hygroscopic viscous liquid used as antifreeze and as a solvent in brake fluid. The tobacco industry claims they add it to keep cheap "reconstituted tobacco" from drying out, but scientists say it aids in the delivery of nicotine (tobaccos active drug) to the brain.

You have got to be kidding with this one. Propylene Glycol is harmless, It's used in many if not most cosmetic products, If we are going to ban smoking in bars because ETS contains Propylene Glycol than we have to ban all customers and employees who enter a bar from ever shampooing their hair. (Go look at the ingredients on the bottle of your shampoo)  

Turpentine - A colorless volatile oil. Turpentine is very toxic and is commonly used as a paint thinner.

If we are going to ban smoking in bars because ETS contains turpentine than of course we must ban all bars/restaurants from using or staining wood because it also releases turpentine and of course any pine trees that are anywhere near a bars/restaurant must come down.

So to be consistent, If we are to ban smoking in bars\restaurants because of all the nasty things you listed than to be consistent we have to ban all the others. So the only way a bar or restaurant should be allowed to open is if

Serves nothing to drink not even water, The building can't be made of wood or contain any insulation of any kind and must be in the middle of a field with no trees around it and can never be cleaned and of course everybody must walk to it and neither you or the staff can wash themselves before going in and the only thing they can serve is Yogurt. Sounds like fun.  

Cigarettes vs Gasoline

Both gasoline exhaust and cigarettes smoke are the end release of the burning of organic materials they are pretty much the same. Yes cigarette smoke contains a small amount of nicotine, but nicotine by itself is harmless. If nicotine were dangerous than people would be dying from eating anything with Tomatoes, Potatoes or Eggplant since each contain nicotine.

Actually gasoline is much worse because it contains all kinds of nasty stuff (like MTBE) where as Tobacco like most plants is mostly made up of cellulose but for the sake of this argument let's assume they are the same.

The big difference of course is the weight, Cigarettes are relatively light compared to gasoline and gasoline in a car is burned at a much greater rate that a smoker burns a cigarette.

Simple Algebra

Weight of One Gallon of Water = 8.37lb

In Grams 8.37/0.0022 = 3797 Grams

Specific Gravity of Gasoline = 0.7420 (https://constmail.gov.state.md.us/comar/03/03.03.06.03.htm)

Weight of one Gallon of Gasoline

3797 * 0.7490 = 2817 grams

Weight of cigarette (Not including the filter) =0.8 grams (Maximum)

Number of cigarettes needed to equal the weight of one gallon of gasoline.

2817 / 0.8 = 3521

So it would take 3521 cigarettes burned to equal just 1 gallon of gas burned.

And of course that’s a very, very low number because for one it is assuming the people smoking smoke the whole cigarette and don’t inhale anything and instead the entire cigarette when burned was released as second hand smoke. I have heard many different estimates on how much of cigarette smoke % wise is absorbed into the body vs released as second hand smoke.

I have heard 90% absorbed -10% released, 70-30% but I will take the lowest I can find at 25% Absorbed and 75% released.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8558049&dopt=Abstract

Which will make it

3521/0.75 = 4695 cigarettes smoked to equal 1 gallon of gas

To put that number in perspective if your car gets 20mpg and you are traveling a 60 mph you are releasing about 4 cigarettes worth of pollution every second!!!! And that number is much higher when you are stuck in traffic at a toll booth or when you start and stop when parking your car or just when idling when your MPG is much lower.

More number Crunching - The average American uses 16 Gallons of gas per week which of course means every American including the anti-smoking Nazis are releasing

16 * 4529 = 75,120  cigarettes worth of pollution per week just by driving,

It would take a pack a day smoker

75120/20/365 = 10.3 years to equal the pollution released in one week by the average driver.

132 posted on 06/06/2003 4:43:25 PM PDT by qam1
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To: qam1
We've been saying that the poison is in the dose for a LOONG time now.
Some people just don't want to get it.
133 posted on 06/06/2003 5:10:17 PM PDT by Just another Joe (FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: qam1
Good work, my FRiend.

Unfortunately the resident antis will look at it and ignore it if they even bother looking at it at all.
134 posted on 06/06/2003 6:07:44 PM PDT by Gabz (anti-smokers = personification of everything wrong in this country)
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To: qam1
#132........ Thank you, going to print this one.
137 posted on 06/06/2003 7:21:41 PM PDT by Great Dane
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