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How I Joined Teach for America — and Got Sued for $20 Million
City Journal Vol. 13, No. 1 ^
| Winter 2003
| Joshua Kaplowitz
Posted on 06/06/2003 7:24:02 AM PDT by dark_lord
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To: mhking
ping
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posted on
06/06/2003 8:29:08 AM PDT
by
Rytwyng
To: Alberta's Child
The small group of Bosnians in my sister's school takes the exact same view of the situation.
One father said: "If I have to miss another day of work because you are misbehaving and ruining your education, I'll take you to work with me instead of school next time. You are taking money out of my pocket and food out of your sister's mouth."
The kid was crying.
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posted on
06/06/2003 8:32:10 AM PDT
by
wideawake
(Support our troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
To: Democratic_Machiavelli
Too. Many. Words. ping
23
posted on
06/06/2003 8:32:40 AM PDT
by
HarryDunne
(Before the bombs start dropping, I need to know... What did this tag line ever do to us?)
To: dark_lord
Please tell me we've vetted this story as an urban legend.
Hat-Trick
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posted on
06/06/2003 8:37:23 AM PDT
by
Hat-Trick
(only criminals, their advocates, and tyrants need fear guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens)
To: Rytwyng
Excellent post.
I also think that he is learning that liberal intentions do not add up to success in education. Responsibility falls on every staff member, from the principal on down, who chooses to allow the children to run the school.
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posted on
06/06/2003 8:37:50 AM PDT
by
Pan_Yans Wife
(Lurking since 2000.)
To: Alberta's Child
Ironically this is precisely what is going to put an end to all the nonsense that the author describes -- when teachers start suing the school districts for $20 million over incidents in the classroom. Where do you think the $20 million will come from? It comes from the TAXPAYERS, not the school district or any of its employees. Thus, the school district and union will have no motivation to change because none of its employees are held PERSONALLY accountable.
You want to make things change? Criminally charge and prosecute school district and union staff, and management as accessories to assault and the other criminal acts being perpetrated. Once school district and union staff and management understand there are PERSONAL consequences to them for their behavior, things will change - not before.
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posted on
06/06/2003 8:38:45 AM PDT
by
jimkress
To: jimkress
It comes from the TAXPAYERS, not the school district or any of its employees. Thus, the school district and union will have no motivation to change because none of its employees are held PERSONALLY accountable. Then let the taxpayers deal with the school district and the union. It may take some time, but it will eventually get done.
Look at the case of that woman in New York who died of a heart attack when the cops raided the wrong apartment in a drug raid. The cops themselves are probably not going to be held personally liable in this case, but the City of New York immediately changed the procedure for drug raids of this sort.
To: dark_lord
And we are paying three fourths of our property taxes here in Houston to schools. This is sick.
To: jimkress
The school district can't be held personally liable as long as education is considered mandatory for minors. We can't expect them to be able to cope with "students" who belong in a sweatshop instead of in a school unless we are willing to give them the power to throw the bastards out of school.
To: <1/1,000,000th%
The article describes the education process in the feral enclave of Washington
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posted on
06/06/2003 8:45:36 AM PDT
by
bert
(Don't Panic!)
To: wideawake
My sister is in the midst of TFA in NYC and she has many similar stories, with the added fun of being sexually harassed by thirteen year old predators.I've taught in relatively calm schools and seem similar stories. Note the points that the teachers were trying, but a lot has to do with parental and administrative support.
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posted on
06/06/2003 8:55:19 AM PDT
by
Amelia
To: Alberta's Child
The school district can't be held personally liable as long as education is considered mandatory for minors So, if a student attacks a teacher, the school district does nothing, and then the student attacks another teacher, you actually believe the people at the school district (who have facilitated an environment where the student knows there are no consequences for attacking a teacher) are blameless and can't be held criminally accountable as accessories to a crime because education is mandatory?
Unbelievable. People with that kind of viewpoint are a big part of the problem in our country.
Until adults in school systems (Teachers, Management, Unions) are held personally accountable (including criminal accountability) for their actions (or lack thereof), our schools will continue to be a place where only barbarism is learned.
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posted on
06/06/2003 8:56:04 AM PDT
by
jimkress
To: wideawake; Alberta's Child
Give the guy a break. Yeah, I have to agree with wideawake.
To quote (or perhaps paraphrase) Winston Churchill, "If your twenty and not liberal, you don't have a heart. If your forty and not conservative, you don't have a head".
To: dark_lord
It's time for us to abandon those communities which continually reject the basic laws of civility. It may seem harsh, but its time for every teacher at Emery to quit and let the community cannibalize itself. They will not play by society's rules, they abuse the system, they ought to be left to their own devices. The people who care will move away and the rest of the community can destroy itself and the rest of us can go on with our lives. Class darwinism. I'm sick of these communities dragging the rest of us down.
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posted on
06/06/2003 8:58:46 AM PDT
by
CaptainJustice
(Dangerous Jesus Lover)
To: dark_lord
Bookmark bump.
How to fix it?
1. Cancel the causative clause "ALL children belong in school."
2. Get the troublemaker students out of the classrooms.
3. Get rid of the -ologist-type 'counselors' and turn those kids back to their parents.
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posted on
06/06/2003 9:02:07 AM PDT
by
brityank
(The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional.)
To: HarryDunne
"Too. Many. Words. ping"
But.Worth.It.
;-)
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posted on
06/06/2003 9:05:23 AM PDT
by
Tamzee
( It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into. - J. Swift)
To: Hat-Trick
Please tell me we've vetted this story as an urban legend.If you'd ever even walked the halls of an inner-city school, the urban legend thought wouldn't have occurred to you.
To: jimkress
So, if a student attacks a teacher, the school district does nothing, and then the student attacks another teacher, you actually believe the people at the school district (who have facilitated an environment where the student knows there are no consequences for attacking a teacher) are blameless and can't be held criminally accountable as accessories to a crime because education is mandatory? If the school district is prohibited by law from throwing a bastard out of the school, then the people who work for the school district can hardly be held accountable.
If a student attacks a teacher, then the teacher has no business "reporting it to the school district" -- the teacher should pick up his or her cell phone, dial 911, and have the little f#cker arrested. The little bastard will be dealt with -- outside the classroom -- and after the police show up five or six times, the classroom will have no more troublemakers.
Incidentally, more and more urban school districts are putting cameras in the classrooms to monitor teachers in case they are accused of assaulting a student. I'll bet they never figured that these cameras would instead be used as evidence in criminal cases filed by the teachers against the students.
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To: dark_lord
bttt
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posted on
06/06/2003 9:12:23 AM PDT
by
EggsAckley
( Midnight at the Oasis)
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