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To: Michael81Dus
"I think it has less to do with anti-semitism than with radical opposition to the policy of Israel. And, not to forget, that Berlin is the biggest Turkish community western of Istambul."

Ironically, Turkey has better relations with Israel than any other Muslim country.

Also, the claims that "I don't hate Jews, I am just against Israel" doesn't stand up to scrutiny for very long, typically. 99% of the folks I've met who use that argument base their position on innacurate information, and are unwilling to change their position when their "facts" are challenged with documentation. Usually, you can narrow it down just to either 1) plain old Jew-hating, 2) wacky conspiracy theories, or 3) radical left (or right) ideologue.
22 posted on 06/05/2003 2:38:59 PM PDT by adam_az
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To: adam_az
We both know that turkish democracy needs to be defended by its generals against enemies from their parliament.
Turkey is the only democratic Muslim country we know, and an ally also, so of course relations are better.

What kind of stereotype would you call me?
I´m German, young, CDU-member, supporting the unquestionable right of existance for Israel within its current border but without Gaza and WB (status of Jerusalem needs to be clarified), supporting the road map, thinking that both sides have actively supported more hatred on each other (IDF-actions on the one side, suicide bombings etc on the other), saying that my hope for peace is gone but I´m willing to be persuaded by new facts (such as the decisions by the road map), I don´t want to hear challenges of my facts (someone called me "willfully blind") because what I saw (café bombings, destruction of EU-financed airport, residents) is enough for me.

Would you call me an anti-semit or a radical left?
24 posted on 06/05/2003 2:51:09 PM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: adam_az
Usually, you can narrow it down just to either 1) plain old Jew-hating, 2) wacky conspiracy theories, or 3) radical left (or right) ideologue.

I believe you've just described the majority of content posted at Liberty Forum, home to many ex and current Freepers.

42 posted on 06/05/2003 4:51:08 PM PDT by babaloo999
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