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TOWNHALL.com ^ | 6/5/2003 | William F. Buckley

Posted on 06/04/2003 10:22:50 PM PDT by MHGinTN

June 5, 2003

The Bush administration has a grave problem in the matter of the weapons of mass destruction (WMD). Jim Lacey, a Time correspondent embedded with the l0lst Airborne Division, summarizes his analysis in National Review. He writes that "there are some simple truths that many seem to be forgetting: (l) At one time, Saddam had an extensive WMD program and enough chemical weapons and toxins to annihilate the eastern United States; (2) in the past, he used those weapons against his enemies, internal and external; and (3) he was an aggressive dictator who tortured and massacred his own people and bullied and periodically invaded neighboring countries."

Agree with all the above and you are still entitled to ask: Where is all that stuff?

Manifestly embarrassed by having been unable to answer that question, U.S. officials are saying that it is somewhere -- not yet discovered except for those two trailers that have no apparent raison d'etre except to make biological and chemical weapons. We have a ritzy Iraq Survey Group set up, a force of 1,200 inspectors and 800 support personnel with a major general of the Defense Intelligence Agency in charge. Its predecessor task force uncovered a cache of vacuums, a buried swimming pool, powder from a high-school student's chemistry experiment, and a number of suspect sites that had been looted.

We know that Saddam Hussein acknowledged having deposits of biological and chemical weaponry and the material for making such weapons, including 5,300 gallons of botulinum and 2,200 gallons of anthrax, plus tons of VX and sarin and mustard gas. This isn't a neocon surmise; it was acknowledged Iraqi ordnance. The Iraqis said yes, they had had it -- but destroyed it. Iraq didn't proffer any evidence of its destruction, which the Iraqis were several times enjoined to do, and they did obstruct the United Nations in its search for the weapons last winter.

It's reasonable to ask, Why on Earth, if indeed he had destroyed the weapons, didn't Saddam Hussein come forward with probative evidence that he had done so? But answering that question is not as difficult as answering the question, Why did Saddam Hussein defy the United States when it was as plain as the posters of his ugly face in every corner of Iraq that his failure to do so would result in the conquest of Iraq and his removal or death?

But even if we acknowledge that as a quandary, we don't satisfy critical concern over what was said by administration spokesmen that induced us to go to war.

How did we detect these weapons? Obviously not by Peeping Tom satellites, because they would have told us exactly where the weapons lay. Two inferences are here made, the first that the suspected weaponry was therefore mobile, and, second, that our knowledge of it came through intelligence sources. What reason did we have to rely on these sources? It had to have been compelling.

In this space, after Vice President Cheney's speech in August 2002, it was noted that "in this intense address, in which words and sentences carry huge freight, we are asked to attend scrupulously to what Mr. Cheney is saying. And he said, 'Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction; there is no doubt that he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies and against us.' But if there is 'no doubt,' as averred here," my analysis continued, "then it follows that there can be no excuse for putting off pre-emptive action."

Mr. Cheney went on in his speech to refer specifically to chemical and biological "agents," but said also that the Iraqis continue to "pursue the nuclear program they began so many years ago." Indeed, he said, we have "firsthand testimony from defectors" that the pursuit of nuclear arms is under way.

There are those who take an easy position here. It is to conclude, like The New York Times' hysterical Paul Krugman, that Bush and Cheney are, very simply, liars. Those who reasonably doubt that George Bush and Dick Cheney would consciously lie to Congress and the American people, and Tony Blair, and for that matter the entire world, are, again reasonably, asked to look for other explanations.

We do need to have a much better explanation than any we have had. Going to war to abort Husseinism is justified. But we are nevertheless entitled to know: How was intelligence information, presented as conclusive, so apparently illusory? Who was it, on the assembly line between the first man who spotted what he took to be WMD activity in Iraq, and the Defense Intelligence Agency and the president of the United States, who beamed out to the world not suspicions of WMD activity but affirmations of it, who screwed up? Who deceived, or was carried away? And what vaccines have our leaders taken to guard against other deceptions of like character?

William F. Buckley, Jr. is editor-at-large of National Review, a TownHall.com member group.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: intel; iraq; jimlacey; wmd
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Buckley is correct, as usual, we have a right to know more about the intel fiasco that has left our occupying forces with nothing to dig up. Why have we not been more able to locate that which was so assuredly there? ... If the WMD's were trucked to the Bakaa Valley, we damn sure had better know that!
1 posted on 06/04/2003 10:22:50 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN
Why did Saddam Hussein defy the United States when it was as plain as the posters of his ugly face in every corner of Iraq that his failure to do so would result in the conquest of Iraq and his removal or death?

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In order to maintain his leadership, Hussein had to strut and mouth off in front of his people. That's the name of the game. There is no way he could comply with the demands and save face.

2 posted on 06/04/2003 10:31:16 PM PDT by RLK
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To: MHGinTN
It would appear Mr.Buckley is a little impatient and about to jump to conclusions too. Relax Bill.

So far, US forces have examined about one-third of all the sites in Iraq that are known to have been connected to the production of weapons of mass destruction. And the US is sending over additional investigators to assist in this huge undertaking. So far, little has been turned up. But the fact is, there has been significant evidence already found that ties Saddam's regime to WMD's. Things like mobile bio labs, radioactive drums, poisonous chemicals turning up in the Euphrates, mustard gas canisters, atropine kits, protective suits and masks, precursor materials, hollow warheads and several types of illegal missiles.

Who knows. May be Saddam's henchmen destroyed the WMD before Operation Iraqi Freedom was started. May be Saddam's WMD were shipped out of Iraq before OIF started. May be Saddam had the WMD buried out in the middle of nowhere and then had any witnesses killed.

I think more time is in order, before anyone should jump to conclusions.

3 posted on 06/04/2003 10:37:59 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: MHGinTN
We got rid of the only weapons of mass destruction that mattered:

Saddam Hussein and his two sociopathic sons.

4 posted on 06/04/2003 10:39:14 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: RLK
You make a good point about Saddam's need to bluster, but it should also be noted that a man who would use chem weapons on his own Kurdish citizens isn't going to destroy, unilaterally, the weapons he so craved for empowerment. [Look at how tenaciously the democrat party continues to defend the indefensible partial birth infanticide! The irrational no longer empowers them, yet they continue their bizzare championing of the evil.]

I would have thought our intel would have had a list of people to find immediately upon ceasation of the shooting, to lead us to the stocks so they didn't trickle out of the country in the hands of terrorists!

5 posted on 06/04/2003 10:46:20 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: Texas Eagle
You nailed the ONLY real answer ... by getting the bastard out of power, we have stopped the threat of his continued WMD programs and his proven connection to terrorists organizations! But that doesn't satisfy the 'lie'beral democrats who are using the speciously framed issue to divert attention form the huge successes of this administration. Of course, I don't raise these questions to appease the damn liberals ... they mean little or nothing in the adult management of our nation now.
6 posted on 06/04/2003 10:49:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: blam; shaggy eel; Cathryn Crawford; JohnHuang2; Luis Gonzalez; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet; ...
Ping-a-ling-a-ling
7 posted on 06/04/2003 10:52:19 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: bjcintennessee; FairOpinion; Mr. Mojo
Ping
8 posted on 06/04/2003 10:54:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
Thanks!! Will check it out asap.
9 posted on 06/04/2003 11:02:42 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (So you're a feminist. That's so cute!)
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To: MHGinTN
bump for later read
10 posted on 06/04/2003 11:03:43 PM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Save your breath. You'll need it to blow up your date.)
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To: MHGinTN
Amazing, even the conservatives are getting caught up in the media frenzy. Until some Iraq insiders are comfortable with spilling the beans, we probably won't know where they are or what happened to them. Let's see, we waited twelve years to take out Insane, and now we can't wait a year or two to find out "the rest of the story".
11 posted on 06/04/2003 11:15:26 PM PDT by Russell Scott (Jesus will soon appear in persons.)
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To: Texas Eagle
We still have a lot of Saddamites to knock out but I agree.I still can't understand why Saddam pretended to have something to hide and the whole world thought he did ,too.Why not verify all had been destroyed?
12 posted on 06/04/2003 11:34:34 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: MHGinTN
Thanks for the ping.

...it should also be noted that a man who would use chem weapons on his own Kurdish citizens isn't going to destroy, unilaterally, the weapons he so craved for empowerment.

On the other hand, he knew the world would condemn him if he used them. (Even his buddy in France stated that if Saddam were to use WMDs against the US, then France would change its position.) And maybe all those leaflets we dropped warning the Iraqi soldiers that they would be held accountable for war crimes if they used WMDs had an influence somewhere along the way. Then too, using chemical weapons in the field is a risky business, with success dependent upon the weather; and there were some major sandstorms going on during some of this battle, and the use of chemicals could have carried back to the unprotected civilian families of the soldiers. Who knows? At this point it is all speculation and supposition. I personally believe that a great deal of WMDs were shipped out of Iraq, but that remains to be proven.

The good news is, as I stated on an earlier post, that the CIA has stepped into the battle and will be presenting Congress all of its documentation next week as proof that its intelligence reports were sound. My guess is that this unprecedented action was prompted by President Bush as a preemptive strike to drown out criticism before the Dems gain any more momentum.

13 posted on 06/04/2003 11:45:40 PM PDT by bjcintennessee
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To: MHGinTN
On an NPR radio program tonight, a Labor MP defended the allies this way:

Britain has for 30 years failed to find weapons stashed in Northern Ireland, which is a tiny fraction of Iraq's land area.

Britain has governed NI and policed (with military also), yet can't find the stuff.

Yet in the short time the allies have policed and governed Iraq, they are supposed to find stuff that is known to have been hidden very cleverly?

Puts a good perspective on the scale of the challenge. The Labor MP is confident the stuff will be found, and he is strong on the point that Blair did NOT conspire with us, to use fraudulent intelligence.
14 posted on 06/04/2003 11:45:51 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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And what vaccines have our leaders taken to guard against other deceptions of like character?

Did Typhoid Mary get vaccinated? Did Patient Zero wear condoms?

The only surprise here is not the extent of the misinformation, but the stubborn persistence of people like Buckley in refusing to admit that American leaders are capable of willful deceit.

15 posted on 06/05/2003 1:22:30 AM PDT by Greybird ("War is the health of the State." -- Randolph Bourne)
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To: MHGinTN
How did we detect these weapons?

Detecting the weapons wasn't very hard.

The hard part was covering it up.

16 posted on 06/05/2003 1:26:46 AM PDT by The Great Satan (Revenge, Terror and Extortion: A Guide for the Perplexed)
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To: Russell Scott
Let's see, we waited twelve years to take out Insane, and now we can't wait a year or two to find out "the rest of the story".
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Exactly. And they wanted to give more time to Blix, even after six months, ore precisely after 12 years, while Saddam was in power obstructing the investigation, and continuing to be a threat, and now they are throwing temper tantrums after a couple of months of our search about why we haven't found the WMD yet.

Now, that Saddam is no longer in power, we have all the time in the world, whereas while he was still in power, he was a continued threat.

It is a shame that even conservatives are jumping on the Democrats bandwagon, the only purpose of which is to try to bash Bush. Anyone who doesn't see this, must be blind.
17 posted on 06/05/2003 7:25:22 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: MHGinTN
If so many people are questioning the intelligence on Iraq's WMDs, then why haven't they gone back to the source- to the original report which caused a mini, yet almost neglected uproar... Clinton's 1998 speech which cited the exact SAME intelligence! If there's an intelligence failure, I say it didn't happen overnight, let alone during the past three years. It happened during the Clinton adminstration, and it's going to take a long time to correct it.
18 posted on 06/05/2003 7:29:07 AM PDT by rintense (Thank you to all our brave soldiers, past and present, for your faithful service to our country.)
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To: rintense
For eight long years, sinkWilly constricted the agent programs of CIA, etc. in favor of technical intel programs. Our lack of embeded agents on the ground in Iraq, Egypt, Syria, North Korea, and Iran is and will remain a blindspot for years to come. For that self-imposed impotence, we have the sinkEmperor to blame.
19 posted on 06/05/2003 7:49:58 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
You are 100% correct. And we are currently paying the price. Bush will be cleaning up Clinton's lapses for the next several years.
20 posted on 06/05/2003 7:52:48 AM PDT by rintense (Thank you to all our brave soldiers, past and present, for your faithful service to our country.)
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