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Homosexual Defection Could Signal Trend Away From GOP
CNSNews.com ^ | June 04, 2003 | Lawrence Morahan

Posted on 06/04/2003 7:27:28 AM PDT by Remedy

A Republican state representative in New Hampshire announced he is switching his political allegiance because of recent comments by Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) in a defection analysts said could signal an accelerated trend away from the GOP on homosexuality.

New Hampshire State Rep. Corey Corbin announced he is becoming a Democrat because of what he considers poor treatment of homosexuals in the Republican Party.

"Being a gay man and, up until this week, a Republican, [Santorum's] comments truly summed up for me the attitude of the GOP toward the millions of gay men and women who work, raise families, pay taxes and contribute to our society," Corbin told the National Stonewall Democrats (NSD), a homosexual pressure group within the Democratic Party.

"We are hated, we are marginalized, and are basically unwanted by a party that has forsaken the principles of Abraham Lincoln and become dominated by a right wing that falls far short of representing mainstream America," Corbin said.

If the 2004 race is as close as some predict, voter defections for perceived intolerance of homosexuals could cost the GOP its political majority, analysts said. Polls show that homosexual voters, which make up an estimated 5 percent of the electorate, favor Democratic candidates over Republicans by margins of up to three to one.

John Marble, a spokesman for the NSD - which welcomed Corbin as the newest member of its Elected Officials Caucus - said there were "stark differences" between the Republican and Democratic parties on homosexual issues.

"Certainly, I would think that politicians who are gay would view the Democratic Party as being more supportive of themselves and their families," Marble said.

"I think they demonstrate the chronic problem that exists with the Republican Party, that there is a hard strain of intolerance that may cause people to really see the differences and reevaluate their relationship with the GOP," he added.

Mark Mead, director of public affairs with the Log Cabin Republicans, a homosexual advocacy group that seeks greater influence in the GOP, said his group was concerned with the defection. But he predicted that in the long run, Log Cabin members would remain loyal to President Bush and the GOP.

"We're going to work on changing the face of the party to make tolerance and inclusion a permanent part of the political landscape, and if Republicans want to stay in the majority, we've got to expand. You win by addition, not by subtraction," Mead said.

Differences between GOP groups opposed to homosexuality and factions such as the Log Cabins could be worked out, Mead said.

"We probably agree on 80 percent of the stuff, and on maybe 20 percent we don't, but it's a heck of a lot more than we might or might not agree on with Democrats," he said.

Santorum support still strong

In an April 7 interview, Santorum commented on a case before the Supreme Court involving a state law that makes certain sexual acts illegal. Santorum noted that the law was challenged on the basis of the "right to privacy" in one's own home.

"If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything," Santorum said.

"Whether it's polygamy, whether it's adultery, where it's sodomy, all of those things are antithetical to a healthy, stable, traditional family," he said.

Homosexual advocacy groups and their allies condemned the comments as bigoted, but Santorum did not retract the remarks.

A poll conducted among Santorum's constituents by the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute showed that the senator's support had not wavered. His approval rating of 55 percent remained the same as before the controversy began.

In addition, 75 percent said Santorum should not resign as the Senate Republican Conference chairman, as his critics had urged.

Critics likened Santorum's comments to those of Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.), who touched off a national uproar for endorsing the 1948 segregationist campaign of Sen. Strom Thurmond. Lott resigned his leadership post under pressure from Republican leaders.

Pollster John Zogby said, however, that despite the Pennsylvania poll numbers, the Republicans will see defections on the homosexuality issue.

Unlike the reaction to the Lott controversy - which saw Republican revulsion at the comments - Santorum's remarks brought up fear of the Christian right, "that leaning too far against Santorum could alienate the conservatives," Zogby noted.

"It sends a message that the Republicans are going to lean right on gay issues and not compromise, and in that sense, I think Republicans stand to lose some moderate officials, and at the same time, they also stand to lose some centrist voters - soccer moms and the like - who are not terribly comfortable with a 'closed tent,'" Zogby said.

The 2004 Democratic campaign for the presidential nomination is beginning to resemble the contest between then-Vice President Al Gore and former Sen. Bill Bradley, who competed strenuously for homosexual votes in 2000.

Democratic candidates are pursuing major efforts to recruit support among an electorate that in some key primaries could contribute 10 percent or more of the vote.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexual; logcabinrepublicans; rino; seeya
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To: Jorge
Funny, I've never heard homosexuals make these talking points,

But you do! Are you gay or NOT

81 posted on 06/07/2003 10:46:14 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Jorge
So you have not answered my question. Unless of course you think the only Judeo-Christian values Republicans should care about are those pertaining to homosexuality..which is self righteous hypocrisy.

That's a statement NOT a question. Care to rephrase?

82 posted on 06/07/2003 10:49:22 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: dorben
Remedy .. Thank you for the thread tonight .

Remedy has resigned his commission here at FR, much to the likes of Jorge.

83 posted on 06/07/2003 10:52:52 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Who want "gays" to die?

Let me see.
People who say gays deserve to get AIDS, that it is God's judgment, that we should do nothing to help people with AIDS...people who express outrage in the threads about Bush pledging money to help fight AIDS.

People who post that AIDS is nature's way of getting rid of "perverts" etc etc.

I and many others have read these posts.

"I tell the truth and I can back up what I say."

Then answer my question if you're NOT a liar.

I have answered it above...and anybody who's read the threads I am refering to knows that I am telling the truth.

Why are you so defensive about this?
Feel guilty?

84 posted on 06/07/2003 10:56:10 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge
Funny, I've never heard homosexuals make these talking points,

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to live your life son.

85 posted on 06/07/2003 10:56:30 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks
An officer is always a gentleman regardless of those around him ^ ) .
86 posted on 06/07/2003 10:57:13 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: Jorge
People who say gays deserve to get AIDS,

WHO??? Name them!

87 posted on 06/07/2003 10:58:29 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: dorben
I wish I was the gentleman he was...God Bless him.
88 posted on 06/07/2003 11:00:17 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Jorge
"Let's see...the pro-gay wing is upset with Bush and the GOP for not taking a more hard-line approach to the Santorum remarks, and the anti-gay wing is upset with Bush and the GOP for not showing more support for Santorum.
And both groups are throwing tantrums threatening to leave the party.

I think Bush has the right position.
And that is he welcomes the support of gays when it comes to conservative values we all share and can support...but he draws the line against the gay agenda when it comes to gay marriage, gays in the military etc.

My biggest problem isn't so much the gays who might leave the GOP over one person's stupid remarks..but that our opponents will be able to exploit this issue to smear the GOP once again as the party of intolerant bigots...which will cost the GOP more than just the votes of gays..but also the votes of non-gays who have family friends or loved ones who happen to be gay, or just don't want to live with intolerance and bigotry.

The truth is when people see how the intolerant right treats gays, many wonder if they will come after them next for adultery, or sex before marraige etc.
This could definitely cost the GOP more than just the gay vote."

* * *

Thanks, Jorge.

Somebody finally gets it!
89 posted on 06/07/2003 11:05:27 PM PDT by RealEstateEntrepreneur
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To: Clint N. Suhks
"Funny, I've never heard homosexuals make these talking points"

But you do! Are you gay or NOT

I am NOT gay.... but your claims to know all these supposed gay talking points seems to indicate you must be.
You are certainly more familiar by admission with all the gay propaganda there is.

So once again, I have never heard gays make the talking points you claim..but then unlike you I don't spend my time either around gays or learning their "propaganda".

Are you a homosexual?

90 posted on 06/07/2003 11:06:56 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: RealEstateEntrepreneur
Tomorrow bump .
91 posted on 06/07/2003 11:13:06 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: Jorge
I am NOT gay....

Fine me too but I don't justify their propaganda like you do...why do you?

92 posted on 06/07/2003 11:14:00 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks
"Funny, I've never heard homosexuals make these talking points,"

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to live your life son.

The idea that you cannot answer challenges to your posts but rather need to resort to this sort of adolescent name calling is really sad.
Nothing I could say could possibly make you look more juvenile and small than your own insulting words do above.

93 posted on 06/07/2003 11:15:39 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Fine me too but I don't justify their propaganda like you do...why do you?

I am against gay marriage, gays in the military, teaching kids to read "Heather Has Two Mommies" and other assorted "Rainbow Curriculum" pro-homosexual books, and I believe in the Biblical definition of homosexuality as a sin and perversion of God's design for sexuality.

How is that justifying homosexual propaganda?

Just because I don't HATE gays and want them to die..or think that everybody else is necessarily so morally superior and think gays deserve the same basic human right we all have doesn't mean I push gay propaganda.

94 posted on 06/07/2003 11:23:16 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge
The idea that you cannot answer challenges

One of those “question mark thingys” needs to accompany a question.

you know, like who wants “gays” to die?

95 posted on 06/07/2003 11:26:43 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks
"People who say gays deserve to get AIDS,"

WHO??? Name them!

Do I actually have to search for the threads where posters complain about Bush pledging assistance to fight AIDS, because they believe those who have AIDS deserve it..that it's God's judgment etc etc ?

Where have you been?

96 posted on 06/07/2003 11:27:34 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge
Just because I don't HATE gays

I don't either, why do you presume all consevatives do?

97 posted on 06/07/2003 11:30:50 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: RealEstateEntrepreneur
Thanks!
98 posted on 06/07/2003 11:31:19 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge
Do I actually have to search for the threads where posters complain about Bush pledging assistance to fight AIDS,

Maybe because cancer and heart disease are more important?

99 posted on 06/07/2003 11:35:54 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks
"Just because I don't HATE gays..."

I don't either, why do you presume all consevatives do?

I don't presume "all conservatives" hate gays. Just a fringe element of hardcore homophobes who post thread after thread of anti-gay hysteria on FR.

We can do without this nonsense.

100 posted on 06/07/2003 11:35:55 PM PDT by Jorge
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