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An ineffective 'assault weapons' ban deserves to expire
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | 1 June 2003 | Robert J. Caldwell

Posted on 06/03/2003 11:54:25 AM PDT by 45Auto

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To: RogueIsland
Interestingly, I've heard of cap and ball revolvers being used by the law abiding in NYC, ...

There's a conversion cylinder available for the 44 caliber ones that converts the gun to 44 colt (sometimes referred to as 44 long colt). You have to pop the cylinder out and take the back off to change the cartridges, but you still have 6 very reliable and powerful shots available. I suppose you could have several cylinders available and change them out like magsazines, but they run about $250.00 each. I used to shoot my ruger old army a lot with BP, and I can see it being the equivalent of any modern SA revolver with this kit. No federal laws on either the gun or the cyliinders as of the present. Probably not restricted from purchase and ownership by Felon and Domestic crime convicts as they are totally unregulated on the Fed level (I'd check with the BATF on that though if I were a restrcited person thinking about it), but some States may have regs on Cap&Ball stuff.

These things wouldn't be hard to make for any competant weekend machinist with a fairly well equipped home shop. Might even make a nice little cottage industry for someone, the design is basicaly from Remington's conversions back in the late 1800's so I doubt there would be any patent problems with the current manufacturers.

21 posted on 06/03/2003 3:34:42 PM PDT by templar
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To: xm177e2
I think you're right, it was Bush Sr. Regan was FOPA, which only affected full auto.
22 posted on 06/03/2003 3:37:16 PM PDT by templar
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To: templar
There's a conversion cylinder available for the 44 caliber ones that converts the gun to 44 colt (sometimes referred to as 44 long colt)... No federal laws on either the gun or the cyliinders as of the present.

Most likely BATF under current administration will not make an issue of it, but a future administration might, under the viewpoint that any device or attachment which transforms a black-powder handgun into a cartridge handgun would be illegal if a Form 4473 was not then filled out, along with a Brady check

I would recommend getting a few of those cylinders now before they become regulated or banned

23 posted on 06/03/2003 4:15:27 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer looking for next gig)
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To: Joe Brower
Thanks for the ping.

This stupid law needs to expire!!!

Besides the NRA, what grassroots orgs are fighting the renewal, tooth-and-nail?
24 posted on 06/03/2003 6:06:55 PM PDT by MonroeDNA (Unions and Marxists say, " Workers of the world unite!")
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To: wjcsux
This was done by Bush SR in 89. It basically prohibited the continued import of firearms such as the FN-FAL, H&K 91, H&K 93, AKM, etc. Domestic firearms were not affected.

Then it was broadened by Clinton in IIRC '98 to better match the AW ban restrictions. To get the details you'd have to check the Executive Order.

25 posted on 06/03/2003 9:43:29 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Joe Brower
Keep guns out of the hands of Horiuchi and Braga--and Feinstein.

A disarmed fed is a civil fed.

26 posted on 06/03/2003 10:47:20 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: LTCJ
"What is the basis for this? Anyone?"

That would be the BUSH (#41) Executive Order banning importation of many high quality firearms including the extremely pricey HK PSG-1. I never heard of any crimes being committed with this weapon which costs over 10grand. Because BUSH 41 was a gun grabbing globalist that helped pave the way for the Clintonian excesses ahead, I will watch the son very closely.

Isn't it interesting that as I sit here typing this, the FX feature movie about the North Hollywood shootout is on. I wonder how many uninformed citizens are watching and are going to equate them with AW's? Semi-auto to full auto? I'm sure mom and pop Americans will say: "Hey what's the difference on the rate of fire? It's the firepower that needs to be banned...right?"

27 posted on 06/05/2003 5:47:35 PM PDT by ExSoldier (M1911A1: The ORIGINAL "Point and Click" interface!)
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To: templar
He chose to use a hand gun to do the killing.

True for the wife and manager, but he killed a Jeffco deputy with either the .50 or his SKS as the deputy was rolling up in his marked car. Can't place the dirtbags name.

28 posted on 06/09/2003 7:46:53 AM PDT by MileHi
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To: MileHi
but he killed a Jeffco deputy with either the .50 or his SKS

I'm fairly sure it was the SKS (but I could be wrong). I recall the .50 as being displayed along with everything else he had in the van. Seems like they would have played up the .50 aspect if it had been used. Of course, this was a few years back and it's likely the news people wouldn't know one from another anyway. I can't remember the killers name either.

29 posted on 06/09/2003 3:24:28 PM PDT by templar
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