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New Zealand man building cruise missile in garage, posting details on Net
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| Tue, Jun 03, 2003
Posted on 06/03/2003 11:03:15 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
Once the Indians found out what they did they adopted the musket without hesitation.
But I am building no missle.
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posted on
06/03/2003 2:44:18 PM PDT
by
justshutupandtakeit
(RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
To: shaggy eel
Aha, you devil, you.
42
posted on
06/03/2003 3:07:16 PM PDT
by
stanz
(Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
To: stanz
,,, anyhow, I guess you'll want to place an order for some garage-ware with the great $NZ/US exchange rate that's going? Call me first or last for the hottest prices!
To: xrp
lol...
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posted on
06/03/2003 3:14:16 PM PDT
by
sit-rep
To: presidio9
I doubt it will fly very fast. Anyone know how fast ours go?
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posted on
06/03/2003 3:15:50 PM PDT
by
dennisw
To: presidio9
Until you define the rational limits on freedom your denial of a belief in "absolute freedom" cannot convey meaning. I have the freedom to own as many box cutters as I please, but my freedom to use them is limited to the cutting of things I own or have express permission to cut. This does not include the throats of stewardesses.
Similarly, my ownership of Stingers harms no one. And I still don't have the freedom to shoot down airplanes.
Question: How many commercial airliners and people have been killed by civillians using box cutters?
What ratio is that compared to the number of people killed and aircraft shot down by civillians owning Stingers?
To: dennisw
The Chinese have a supersonic cruise missile called the "Sunburn", I believe. The typical cruise flies at about Mach 0.8 or 0.85.
To: presidio9
Re:"If you showed our founding fathers the surface to air missle that you were building, you might have been burned at the stake. "
Nonsense. During colonial times privately owned crew served weapons (cannon) and private naval vessels were legally held by those wealthy enough to afford the infrastructure and staffing such tools require. The founders understood that government derives it just powers from those concentually assigned to it by the people. If government has the authority to own Stingers, it comes from individual's rights.
Ultimately, all human systems require trusting the individual actor (soldier, cop or citizen) to do anything, even the right thing. Organized systems may have built in checks and balances to see that power tools aren't abused or toyed with foolishly, but ultimately some individual, or small combination of actors, somewhere has to be trusted.
It's hard to find a cheaper, more common, and more energetic material pound for pound than gasoline, and yet instances of its abuse are statistically non-existent. Stingers may sound more awesome and dangerous (even though their warhead is only about as big as a can of beer), but their potential was obviously less than the tactical deployment of a small team with box cutters and basic piloting skills. It seems pretty clear that not only people in uniform are in danger in the War on Terror, and it also seems pretty clear that if we are going to successfully defend ourselves against such threats, we'll need to trust more than just uniformed public servants.
Nations under siege (Israel comes to mind) invariably count on irregular, non-uniformed citizens to be able to respond. If Hamas had airships, you can bet Israelli citizens would likely demand and develop some form of man portable air defense tool. Then again, Israelli's sense of community hasn't been split apart as badly as ours by diversity, multiculturalism, and the "leave things to the professionals" attitude of a culture in decline.
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posted on
06/03/2003 4:16:31 PM PDT
by
LibTeeth
To: Ten Megaton Solution
Thanks!
49
posted on
06/03/2003 4:24:07 PM PDT
by
dennisw
To: LibTeeth
Yes, but with gasoline you have to get the fuel air mix right, or use pure oxygen. But if you DO get it right, the KABOOM is truly stupendous. Enough to crack dozens of windows at a major East Coast university (which I'll not name just in there are laws for which the statute of limitations has not run out on) at a great distance from the blast.
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posted on
06/03/2003 4:41:19 PM PDT
by
eno_
To: justshutupandtakeit
If, as he said it was, it is a pulse jet engine it is indeed a feasible back yard project. Plans can be purchased from ads in Popular Mechanics.
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posted on
06/03/2003 5:03:31 PM PDT
by
GladesGuru
(In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
To: jriemer
Yet New Zealand has strict gun control laws...,,, and a 365 day hunting season each year.
To: presidio9
This guy really does build some interesting stuff - see his other site
here.
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posted on
06/03/2003 6:22:16 PM PDT
by
Zeppo
To: presidio9
We should find out why we're overpaying for our Tomahawks... well, if this guy can deliver as he promises.
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posted on
06/03/2003 6:25:05 PM PDT
by
xm177e2
(Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
To: justshutupandtakeit
This guy is building a jet/rocket engine? Don't think many will be able to do that. See, that engine is a buzzbomb - it consists of a dryer vent, a spring, a pipe, and a fuel injector.
My eight-year-old could build one.
search google for V1 Buzzbomb.
55
posted on
06/03/2003 6:43:49 PM PDT
by
patton
(I wish we could all look at the evil of abortion with the pure, honest heart of a child.)
To: shaggy eel
Ahhh. The old Mouse-That-Roared strategy. Be careful you don't accidently win. Then it's off to the moon for you!
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posted on
06/03/2003 6:47:43 PM PDT
by
MalcolmS
(Do Not Remove This Tagline Under Penalty Of Law!)
To: Ten Megaton Solution
"What ratio is that compared to the number of people killed and aircraft shot down by civillians owning Stingers?"
Let's just say that Stingers are available as box cutters. How many airliners would we lose every day?
To: presidio9
That sorta makes a model airplane kit look like a booger.
To: presidio9
Nonsense.
Rockets were invented centuries prior by the Chinese, and except for the computer guidance system used to direct the warhead, the concept of a surface-to-air missile or indeed any kind would probably make sense.
It'd be computer technology that would freak them out.
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posted on
06/03/2003 7:15:00 PM PDT
by
Skywalk
To: MalcolmS
Be careful you don't accidently win. Then it's off to the moon for you!,,, Area51? Don't think so; not for this boy.
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