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New Zealand man building cruise missile in garage, posting details on Net
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| Tue, Jun 03, 2003
Posted on 06/03/2003 11:03:15 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
What's wrong with having your own stinger? People can own rifles, can't they?
What, truly is the moral distinction between being able to kill people one at a time (or more. Imagine a sniper aiming at the driver of a Greyhound Bus on the freeway...), and being able to kill them in batch lots?
Last time I checked, the biggest incident of mass murder on American soil was done by towelheads with box cutters.
To: montomike
To: Ten Megaton Solution
No, you are right. People should always be able to do/own anything their hearts desire. And society should trust the lowest common denominator to always do the right thing. If Samir, the guy who sells me my newspaper every morning, says he needs a stinger missle as a conversation piece, I think that's a swell idea!
What'd I tell you folks? They're out there!
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posted on
06/03/2003 12:05:59 PM PDT
by
presidio9
(Run Al, Run!!!)
To: presidio9
When is a missle a missle?
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posted on
06/03/2003 12:15:32 PM PDT
by
DannyTN
(Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
To: shaggy eel
I hope that's not you..................
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posted on
06/03/2003 12:18:57 PM PDT
by
stanz
(Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
To: DannyTN
I give up. When?
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posted on
06/03/2003 12:28:20 PM PDT
by
presidio9
(Run Al, Run!!!)
To: presidio9
"I give up. When? "I don't know either. It just seems from the description like this guy is playing with toy airplanes.
So how is a missle in the treaties defined? When do you cross the line and your toy airplane becomes an international treaty violation?
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posted on
06/03/2003 12:36:46 PM PDT
by
DannyTN
(Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
To: presidio9
You haven't refuted what I said. Are you saying people should be controlled? I guess it broke your heart when the Berlin Wall came down.
Who sets the limits? If your paper boy thinks he needs a Patriot, perhaps he does. I suspect there are people on this thread right here that want to control what he does.
To: DannyTN
Agreed. This is reeks of handwringing.
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posted on
06/03/2003 1:02:16 PM PDT
by
presidio9
(Run Al, Run!!!)
To: Ten Megaton Solution
I don't need to. Your hardheaded loonacy is self-evident. You have soulmates in pro-abortionists who defend partial birth abortion tooth and nail. Sensible people know that there are lines to be drawn on personal freedoms. That line falls somewhere south of guaranteed access to surface to air missles.
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posted on
06/03/2003 1:04:30 PM PDT
by
presidio9
(Run Al, Run!!!)
To: Dark Wing
ping
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posted on
06/03/2003 1:09:11 PM PDT
by
Thud
To: stanz; dorben
,,, the strategy's working! Firstly, Helen Klark makes anti-American comments about the Iraq campaign in order to give New Zealand a hostile national profile.
Secondly, in the knowledge that New Zealand's Symphony Orchestra is more adequately funded than it's military, a dedicated internet developer, somewhat displaced in the fallout from the dotcom revolution takes it upon himself to assist the advancement of New Zealand's status as having potential for weapons of mass destruction.
Pssst: You do know how much oil exists in the Great South Basin, don't you?
To: presidio9
Yes. Sensible people know there are lines to be drawn on personal freedoms. I'm guessing that you can't define them.
I really like the way you try to color my position with extraneous accusations of "pro-choice" and other such things when you don't have a clue who you're talking to. That's one of the top ten techniques of people who can't discuss an issue, isn't it?
To: shaggy eel; Orangedog
Don't worry about having weapons of mass destruction, they're easily dismantled,just ask the Iraqis...and should something go terribly wrong, as Orangedog says, it can only go wrong once.
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posted on
06/03/2003 1:30:23 PM PDT
by
stanz
(Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
To: stanz
,,, what could possibly go wrong? Fortunes have been built on defense contracts that have had humble starts. I'm sitting in a building looking across Wellington harbour right now. Over the other side is an industrial area called Gracefield/Seaview. There's a nuclear accelerator there, used for carbon dating and research. The path ahead is clear [LOL!]
To: Ten Megaton Solution
I didn't lable you "pro-choice" (or "pro-abortion" for that matter, but why quibble). I said that you have a soul mate in radical pro-abortionists who see everything in black and white.
I don't believe in absolute freedom. Because there are devices that insane people can't be trusted with the rest of us don't get to enjoy them as freely as we might wish. And, no, I am not talking about assault weapons. But I think that surface to air missles and heroine both fit the bill.
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posted on
06/03/2003 2:12:43 PM PDT
by
presidio9
(Run Al, Run!!!)
To: presidio9
Our Founding Fathers were able to make the wise distinction between "Liberty" and "Licentiousness." Some of our friends can't.
This guy is building a jet/rocket engine? Don't think many will be able to do that.
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posted on
06/03/2003 2:23:02 PM PDT
by
justshutupandtakeit
(RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
To: shaggy eel
If I were you, I'd keep a pair of binoculars handy. From that vantage point, you could check on suspicious behavior. Bruce Simpson might be skulking about looking for castoffs to embellish his missile.
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posted on
06/03/2003 2:24:46 PM PDT
by
stanz
(Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
To: stanz
,,, all the suspicious behaviour is caught by satellite and closed circuit cameras. Don't draw me into conversation about my good old binocular days!!!
To: justshutupandtakeit
If you showed our founding fathers the surface to air missle that you were building, you might have been burned at the stake. The concept is as foreign to their world as muskets were to the indians.
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posted on
06/03/2003 2:32:01 PM PDT
by
presidio9
(Run Al, Run!!!)
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