Ex-Army boss: Pentagon won't admit reality in Iraq

USA TODAY ^ | 3 Jun 03 | Dave Moniz

[SLB]

WASHINGTON

[dennisw]

So you voted for Ralph Nader or a libertarian loon for president. You just couldn't pull the lever for George Bush as did 95% of Freepers. You're too precious and pure to do that

[Grampa Dave]

They are as relevant as Baghdad Bob was/is.

No they're not. Baghdad Bob could get a cable TV show in a minute. You think any of these guys could?

Excellent point!

[Miss Marple]

What e-mails? From which soldiers? I have seen several e-mails as well, and they support the mission in Iraq and say nothing like you are inferring.

[jpl]

Nobody's getting fooled, it's all sour grapes, and it's mostly coming from old Clinton stooges. I say don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. And besides, it's good for the generals to be reminded every once in a while that even though their opinions are welcome, their job is to follow orders.

[ilgipper]

At what point did anyone in Washington, or here for that matter, say that we wouldn't have a long term obligation in Iraq, and that it would take some time to transition? I missed those comments.

[ilgipper]

Iraq is not the same as Germany or Japan, but Germany was not the same as Japan. Each case involves a different set of people, and a different culture. It was said here that it took 5-6 years in Japan, 1-2 year in Germany, yet people here think 30 days after Iraq was taken, we should be bringing all our troops home. Talk about unreasonable expectations.

[Eagle Eye]

He's a name caller, not a debater.

He's swallowed the official line as well as the hook and sinker.

[Protagoras]

So who did you vote for president in 2000?

Good question,,,,,,,,,for a pollster. But irrelevant to the topic. Unless changing the topic is the goal.

[Protagoras]

No it isn't.

The third party whiners/losers hate our president, Rummy, Powell and our military more than the Rats do.

I don't and I have the same concerns as well as others. Now what?

What did you have for breakfast this morning?

[BOBTHENAILER]

And Iraq is different than Germany or Japan. If you can't see that, then there is really no reason to debate this issue.

We've been in the newly liberated Iraq about 2 months now and already the naysayers, handwringers and world class thumbsuckers (to borrow A Rummy classic) are howling, pi$$ing and moaning about how wrong everybody was in the Pentagon. Give it some time and then complain, until then, hide and watch and you may be severely disappointed.

Our leadership from the top down to the lowest private on the streets of Baghdad have done a magnificent job, unequaled in history. All you want to do is tear it down.

[Grampa Dave]

No it is right on target when the third party losers/whiners attack our President, Rummy and other administration people.

It is time to identify the attackers as the irrelevant losers in American Politics. They can't win at the ballot box, so they try to electronically lynch the winners.

[Protagoras]

They can't win at the ballot box, so they try to electronically lynch the winners.

So any criticism is an electronic lynching? No questions can be asked? No one is allowed to hold anyone's feet to the fire?

It is time to identify the attackers as the irrelevant losers in American Politics.

It's time for you to attack the questions and topics instead of the posters.

[Eagle Eye]

No it is right on target when the third party losers/whiners attack our President, Rummy and other administration people. It is time to identify the attackers as the irrelevant losers in American Politics. They can't win at the ballot box, so they try to electronically lynch the winners.

You sound like the reverse side of the clintonoid coin. Your smear tactics are straight from the liberal democrat playbook.

SLB didn't attack anyone, but you feel the need to silence any opinions that don't mesh with yours.

[Grampa Dave]

Naah.

The days of Republicans rolling over and allowing the third party whiners to attack our President, his cabinet and our military are over. Get used to it.

[Protagoras]

What about the topic?

[Protagoras]

So any criticism is an electronic lynching? No questions can be asked? No one is allowed to hold anyone's feet to the fire?

[BOBTHENAILER]

What did you have for breakfast this morning?

Thick cut hickory smoked bacon, two eggs over easy, imported Hatch New Mexico green chiles (hot) diced and mixed with the eggs, white sourdough toast topped off with a steaming mug of extra strong coffee.

Makes for a strong foundation to fend off attack mice against this Administration. And you?

[Redbob]

Perhaps the public is now learning why White was fired in the first place: lack of judgement.

And now he's making pronouncements like this in hopes that people won't forget his name. Probably angling for a job with CNN.

[Eagle Eye]

"There you go again."

Nothing wrong with supporting the President and his administration, but not at the expense of objectivity and truth. You are no different that the clinton koolaid drinkers.

Has it ever entered into you mind that things may not be what they seem or what you hope them to be?

[Grampa Dave]

BOL.

Now you are sounding like Baghdad Bob!