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To: kattracks
"There was no "intelligence hoax."


Just thinking out loud:

Hmm, I seem to remember Sec Powell making a big deal of showing intelligence maps showing movement of trucks and he made a big deal of holding up a vial to represent anthrax. Now if they had this great intelligence pinpointing movement of trucks, how come they haven't found wmds? Is it possible that we were lied to?

I think so. Is it possible that one of the reasons for invading Iraq was a personal payback by Bush to punish saddam for attempting to assassinate his father 10/11 years ago. They continue to call it a "war", but, as far as I'm concerned it is a "police action". If he were really serious about destroying terrorism, he should have invaded Iran, Saudi Arabia, North Korea as each of these countries fit Bush's criteria of an enemy, which is to say, any country that aids, abets and harbours terrorists. It was only after the "police action" commenced that they suddenly connected Iraq to terrorists. Very convenient to justify invading another country.

This is one registed independant voter who will not vote for him in '04 because of his obscene spending spree he's on and other reasons listed below.

The republicrats are "democrat lite" and I will not vote for either party. As for his tax "reduction", let's just see if they don't get us through the back door relative to increases in the fed gas tax and other "fees".

In any event, both parties continue to violate their sworn oaths to uphold the Constitution, to wit; passage of CFR, "patriot act" and the fatherland, oops, excuse me, the "homeland security act". These are the major reasons I will not vote for "Dem Lite".

BTW, after the second "warning" of impending attacks, I ignored every subsequent one. The best way to get more freedom restricting laws on the books is to frighten half your population into being insecure.

FReegards
3 posted on 06/02/2003 12:57:51 AM PDT by poet
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To: poet
If he were really serious about destroying terrorism, he should have invaded Iran, Saudi Arabia, North Korea as each of these countries fit Bush's criteria of an enemy, which is to say, any country that aids, abets and harbours terrorists.

You can't honestly believe that Bush should have invaded all these countries in a grand campaign of global conquest. To even suggest such a thing is reckless and suspect. It does not indicate serious thought or opinion on the matter.

Bush is by no means perfect, and he'd be the first to tell you. But despite, and quite possibly because of misperceptions of him, he has managed to develop a very impressive resume as a master politician who accomplishes what he sets out to do.

Don't be fooled by the malapropisms and aw shucks demeanor of this man. With them, he has disarmed and defeated much more formidable opponents than either of us would ever want to face.

The pattern of people "misunderestimating" Bush, followed by subsequent shock at his successes, continues unabated. It just so happens that those who misjudge him both lack patience and insight, otherwise they would abandon the absurd treadmill upon which they run long ago.

And all the while they rail and complain against him, he quietly turns them to serve his purposes.

But that's impossible, right? After all, he's too stupid to win every time.

I hear that every time he wins, which happens to be very often, indeed.

Just ask the decimated and demoralized remnants of the Texas House of Representatives's Democratic caucus. They are so desparate and destitute that they have literally fled the state!

You might recall that the Democrats ran Texas with an iron fist before Dubya rode into town.

It bears repeating again and again: misunderestimate Bush at your peril!

7 posted on 06/02/2003 1:38:53 AM PDT by Imal (If I had a dime for every time Bush's critics were right about him, I'd need to borrow a dime.)
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To: poet
When a nuke goes off in a city near you, you can tell us all about it.
9 posted on 06/02/2003 2:38:33 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: poet
These are the major reasons I will not vote for "Dem Lite". You'll vote for Dem heavy instead. Thanks. The DAmnocrat party thanks you for every non-Republican vote, every Libertarian vote, every Ross Perot vote, etc., and for not voting as well.

BTW, can you name a "perfect" conservative candidate for whom you will vote? That could actually get elected?

10 posted on 06/02/2003 3:00:29 AM PDT by Marie Antoinette (Mr. M)
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To: poet
Is it possible that one of the reasons for invading Iraq was a personal payback by Bush to punish saddam for attempting to assassinate his father 10/11 years ago.

This is the Dim's campaign theme, for '08 as well as '04.

Hearing this talk you'd think Bush went over there and kicked their asses by himself. He might have I suppose. But why and how did he convince half of the world to join in?

22 posted on 06/02/2003 6:18:19 AM PDT by tsomer
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To: poet
Is it possible that one of the reasons for invading Iraq was a personal payback by Bush to punish saddam for attempting to assassinate his father 10/11 years ago.

It's not why we took out Saddam, but an assasination attempt against a U.S. President, current or former, is justification in and of itself. Clinton should have taken care of this when it happened.

24 posted on 06/02/2003 7:16:38 AM PDT by alnick ("Never have so many been so wrong about so much." - Rummy)
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To: poet
"If he were really serious about destroying terrorism, he should have invaded Iran, Saudi Arabia, North Korea as each of these countries fit Bush's criteria of an enemy"

If you can pull the troops, money and global political support out your anal orifice to implement your genius plan, then we'll take it seriously. For now, it's a great hardship on our people in just Iraq to remain there for just these months. And politically, we stopped just short of making China, Russia and France nuclear protected covert safe havens for anti American terrorists.

26 posted on 06/02/2003 7:50:21 AM PDT by elfman2
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To: poet
This is one registed independant voter who will not vote for him...

I know a lot of well intentioned Perot voters that painfully regret throwing their vote away.

so, which 3rd place loser gets your wasted vote?

38 posted on 06/02/2003 9:15:01 AM PDT by goo goo g'joob
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To: poet
"Is it possible that one of the reasons for invading Iraq was a personal payback by Bush to punish saddam for attempting to assassinate his father 10/11 years ago."

Still repeating this juvenial crap, eh kiddo? Fortunately, the President of the United States is above that and eliminated this regieme for valid, geo-political reasons.

Your continued mantra of Republicans being Democrat-lites is as empty-headed as the rest of your tirade.

"Poet, my ass!"

44 posted on 06/02/2003 9:25:53 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: poet
It was only after the "police action" commenced that they suddenly connected Iraq to terrorists.

Either you haven't been paying attention or you have selective memory. The connections of terrorists to Iraq go back well before the invasion. From the Iraqi financing of suicide bombers, to the known presence in Iraq of Al Qaeda operatives, to several other pre-war connections, the relationship between Iraq and terrorist training and activities has been well established.

62 posted on 06/02/2003 12:36:35 PM PDT by VRWCmember (Stanley Cup - back to Jersey; NBA Title - back to Texas (San Antonio, that is))
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