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Melsec wrote: He has a point about the infusion of American culture into other societies. As an Australian, a country with many shared experiences as well as similar beginings, we have had little problem in either understanding or excepting most aspects of American culture. The problem with American culture though is that it is so powerfull. I'm not whinning here rather I wish to point out that along with the multitude of great things about American culture comes also the things which we don't enjoy such as the pop culture and porn etc. This is what the other countries find repulsive and having had there own culture swept away in one or two generations they find (more than America itself) that their young become obsessed with whatever is presented from such sweethearts such as Eminem, Slipknot, The internet Porn Industry.

Allow me to point out that we don't force our culture aon anyone.

If you don't like our music don't listen to it.

If you don't like our fast food dont buy Mac donalds' hamburgers.

If you don't like our TV, watch something else instead.

As for porn, that's not unique to the US and as a matter of fact non-American TV is much more likely to show full-frontal nudity and explicit sex than ours.

We don't force anything on anybody at bayonet point so don't blame us.

Gee quidnunc you certainly take criticism personally. American Liberals run both you music and Hollywood movie industry as well as much of your TV industry. So the most popular forms of entertainment (next to the good old fashioned ones) are controlled by people who are happy to see the decline in morality - it makes great money. If I lived in a vacuum then I wouldn't have a problem with it as i can and do just switch off but it's not about my personal dislikes but rather about the effect it is having on society as a whole. As it does have an effect on society as a whole and as I also don't live in a vacuum then it does have an effect on me. The idea that if you don't like it you can turn it off then it won't effect you is just like saying "Ignorance is bliss". Any conservatism that does not have a concept of societal as well as personal morality is simply a conservatism based on fiscal policy and political backslapping.

You seem to have missed all the praise I heaped on much of what is American culture and simply took unction to what is essentially pop culture.

I am quite aware that the porn idustry did not originate in America however where making it a part of popular culture and exporting it to the rest of the world is concerned you win hands down.

BTW ever think of who these people who make so much money off of these industries support in the political arena - Yes you're right the Democrats.

:)Mel

Imagine you are a Native American 150 years ago. Imagine you complain to your tribe that the locomotives are making it possible for the Europeans to spread _their_ civilization west and _replace_ your civilization. And imagine one of your own tribe said, "Hey, buddy, if you don't like trains, just don't buy tickets and don't ride on them..."

19 posted on 09/14/2001 12:47 PM EDT by MarkWar

IMHO Mark War is right--"Just say no" doesn't always cut it.