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Gee quidnunc you certainly take criticism personally. American Liberals run both you music and Hollywood movie industry as well as much of your TV industry. So the most popular forms of entertainment (next to the good old fashioned ones) are controlled by people who are happy to see the decline in morality - it makes great money. If I lived in a vacuum then I wouldn't have a problem with it as i can and do just switch off but it's not about my personal dislikes but rather about the effect it is having on society as a whole. As it does have an effect on society as a whole and as I also don't live in a vacuum then it does have an effect on me. The idea that if you don't like it you can turn it off then it won't effect you is just like saying "Ignorance is bliss". Any conservatism that does not have a concept of societal as well as personal morality is simply a conservatism based on fiscal policy and political backslapping.

You seem to have missed all the praise I heaped on much of what is American culture and simply took unction to what is essentially pop culture.

I am quite aware that the porn idustry did not originate in America however where making it a part of popular culture and exporting it to the rest of the world is concerned you win hands down.

BTW ever think of who these people who make so much money off of these industries support in the political arena - Yes you're right the Democrats.

:)Mel

Melsec wrote: Gee quidnunc you certainly take criticism personally. American Liberals run both you music and Hollywood movie industry as well as much of your TV industry.

Apparently you don't have a firm grasp of the U.S. Constitution, including the Bill of Rights.

We aren't into censorship here and generally speaking the entertainment industry is market-driven.

Instead of whinging (a little Commonwealth lingo there) to us, get on your government's case and have them ban the importation of American culture.

And if you don't know how to go about that the Saudis will probably be happy to give you some useful tips.

Honestly though, that's not what people fear from American culture, and most people who say that are among the few in their nations uttering such statements.

Ask yourself THIS question: Why does a Muslim "conservative" fear American culture? Is it because of porn, or is it because women might become equal partners in society? Is it gangsta rap or the idea that a theocratic system of government will not hold up with Americanized youth?

Why do youth in Iran embrace America? Because of porn? LOL I don't think so. Why did Burmese rebels cheer for the fall of Saddam? Because they know that America was taking down a dictator and wish that we'd help them. They were realistic that we won't, but they appreciated the meaning of our actions.

Even Hollywood movies are not ALL junk. After all, Gladiator successfully transmitted ideas like loyalty and honor to millions of viewers. M. Night Shyalaman makes movies about faith and finding your place in this world.

Yes, a lot is junk. But to overlook the APPEAL of American culture and merely pick out the horrid aspects(really, isn't American porn far more tame than German anyway?) is to completely ignore the appeal of freedom, creativity and the importance of the individual.

For every Britney Spears there's a modest Michelle Branch. For every Don Simpson-type producer there's a sincere artist or defender of liberty.