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Why Do So Many Africans Get AIDS?
DISCOVER ^ | June 2003 | by Josie Glausiusz

Posted on 05/31/2003 7:46:46 AM PDT by JZoback

Every major campaign against AIDS in Africa has been based on the premise that heterosexual sex accounts for 90 percent of transmission in adults. Yet safe-sex efforts have not stopped the spread of the epidemic, which now affects 30 million people. Economic anthropologist David Gisselquist therefore suspected that HIV might be spreading primarily by another route. After analyzing 20 years of epidemiological studies, he and his colleagues concluded that unsafe injections, blood transfusions, and other medical procedures may account for most AIDS transmission in African adults. Their analysis indicates that no more than 35 percent of HIV in that population is spread through sex.

Gisselquist's interest in AIDS was stimulated by the guidance he received while traveling through Africa as a World Bank consultant. "They give you a syringe and say, 'Carry this with you, and avoid all the health care that you can.' We've been paying for third-world health care while advising ourselves to avoid it," he says. When he examined hundreds of papers on AIDS in Africa, he found evidence to back up those concerns. A study in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, for instance, found that 39 percent of HIV-positive, vaccinated infants had uninfected mothers. In contrast, Gisselquist could not uncover any clear data proving that sexual intercourse dominates the spread of African AIDS. In Zimbabwe, HIV incidence rose by 12 percent per year during the 1990s, even as sexually transmitted diseases sank by 25 percent overall and condom use rose among high-risk groups. Gisselquist recently reported his findings in four papers published in the International Journal of STD & AIDS.

Medical researchers may have overemphasized sexual transmission of African AIDS in part because condom-use campaigns dovetail with their concerns about overpopulation, Gisselquist says. They also fear that people in Africa will lose faith in modern health care. Gisselquist urges new efforts to halt the spread of AIDS: "Aid programs need to push infection control in health care. And we need to give the public the advice and the tools for protecting themselves in medical situations," such as new syringes and single-dose vials.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; aids; death; deathcultivation; taxes; un
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To: Centurion2000
Another reason is that African men tend to like very dry sex .... so the women use herbs to dry their parts out ....

Where did you read this? I've read quite a bit about Africa and their supposed AIDS crisis but have never read about this as a possible contributing factor. Do you have a source?
41 posted on 05/31/2003 5:51:01 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: A. Pole
Duesberg is more than qualified to do that. He is also a better expert in his field than 99% of other virology specialists.

Duesberg did, after all, discover the entire class of retrovirusus if my reading has been correct. It's quite interesting to hear him disparaged so often but then they have to admit that he pioneered the field. When one compares his record for honesty and ethics with that of Gallo or the French researchers (a group whose behavior almost disqualifies them as serious scientists), Duesberg looks pretty good, both academically and as a credible and honest theorist. And Duesberg certainly has questions about HIV theory that the orthodoxy have refused to answer. Until Duesberg and other anti-HIV activists are properly answered and their objections to HIV theory truly accounted for by the establishment, I will consider the HIV theory to have such serious flaws that it may actually be fundamentally wrong.
42 posted on 05/31/2003 5:58:37 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Carry_Okie
> IOW, mass murder.

> Who are the owners of the corporations processing that vaccine?

Funny you should ask. It was illegal to process prison blood plasma in this country, so a lot of lot of tainted plasma was processed by Connaught Laboratories, in Canada. Connaught was a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Canadian Development Corp, which was half-owned by the Canadian Government. On the CDC board for this dubious enterprise was Paul Martin -- the next Prime Minister, everybody thinks. Martin was also a leading opponent of the official Canadian investigation of the whole contaminated blood disaster (Krever Commission).

As I recall there were four US blood fractionaters at the time and there is circumstantial reason to believe that one or more of them also processed bad blood. But no criminal case has been developed so that is mere speculation. The pharmaceuticals are closely protected by "blood shield" laws that absolve them of liabilities for contaminating blood in most cases.

43 posted on 05/31/2003 8:30:39 PM PDT by T'wit
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To: Semper Paratus
Hetersexual anal intercourse is very popular in sub-tropical Africa as a birth control method.

I'd imagine many African women aren't too keen on this method.

44 posted on 05/31/2003 8:33:30 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: PatrioticAmerican
I suspect many Africans are ignorant about AIDS and what causes it.

Considering that many African men rape infant girls because they think it'll cure them of the disease, I'd say that's a pretty safe statement.

45 posted on 05/31/2003 8:35:33 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mamzelle
To liberals, self-congratulation is more important than the cause.

Bullseye, Mamzelle.

46 posted on 05/31/2003 8:36:23 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: putupon
All they need is 15 billion more of our money, and everything will be Okie Dokie

Prediction: Much of that money - OUR money - will find its way into the deep pockets of the continents dictators, and the rest won't do a damn thing to curb the AIDS rate. Might as well flush the $15 billion down the camode.

47 posted on 05/31/2003 8:38:35 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: A. Pole
Because they get money from the West if they are diagnosed with AIDS. Trivial pneumonia or malnutrition does not work.

DING DING DING

WINNER!
48 posted on 05/31/2003 8:39:07 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (MY VOTE IS FOR SALE)
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To: Mr. Mojo
I'd imagine many African women aren't too keen on this method.

Couldn't hurt much worse than vaginal sex, the way they dry out & inflame the vaginal tissues with herbs (See "dry sex" at #30).

49 posted on 05/31/2003 8:51:56 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
Never heard of that before, but I'll take your word for it. Frankly, I don't understand their "dry sex" preference.
50 posted on 05/31/2003 8:56:20 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: George W. Bush; gcruse
I'd never heard of it before last month, when gcruse dared me to Google "dry sex". It's very common in some parts of Africa. That is one strange continent upon which to be female. When they're not mutilating or sewing it shut, they're actually dessicating it.

Before you go to Google, shriek "Ew, ew, eeeeeeeeeeeeew!!" a few dozen times. Just to get it out of the way early.
51 posted on 05/31/2003 9:03:00 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: JZoback
I remember a documentary from awhile back, one of the theories was that uncircumcised males carry the virus or contract the virus, more easily than those who are circumcised. If the practice catches on with the health professionals in Africa, the numbers may decrease. Just a theory.
52 posted on 05/31/2003 9:07:53 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: T'wit; Askel5
Does Maurice Strong have any connection to Connaught Laboratories? (I tried a search and came up empty.)

My searches did turn him up as Chairman of the Canadian Development Investment Corporation. Is that the same thing?

53 posted on 05/31/2003 9:09:01 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
10, 26, 43, 53... Hike!
54 posted on 05/31/2003 9:16:22 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: JZoback
Could it be, that infants in Africa are being deliberately infected with AIDS during vaccination, as a form of post birth abortion, used as population control?

55 posted on 05/31/2003 9:21:11 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell
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To: George W. Bush
> And Duesberg certainly has questions about HIV theory that the orthodoxy have refused to answer.

I don't understand your point. Nobody owes him any answers. Nobody has refused him current scientific research and information, either. It's all out there. We've used it in this forum.

In my previous post (#43), I referred to the Canadian tainted blood disaster in the 1980s. More than 1,000 Canadian hemophiliacs were infected with Hepatitis C, AIDS, or both from tainted Factor 8. Source of the contamination: Arkansas prison blood plasma. Some infections were traced right down to the lot # on the plasma. Similar outbreaks occurred in at least twenty other countries that received tainted blood and blood products, including the U.S.

HIV and HCV as blood-borne viruses explain these outbreaks. They cannot be explained by AZT, Dr. Duesberg's good character, the purportedly shady character of other doctors and pharmaceutical companies, or bad medical reporting in Africa.

56 posted on 05/31/2003 9:38:52 PM PDT by T'wit
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To: Carry_Okie; BigM
Maurice Strong doesn't ring any bells, but that may just be a weak memory; I haven't looked at any of the documents in quite a while. BigM is the person to ask, so I'll flag him.

Happy thought: the RCMP investigation is still open and active.

57 posted on 05/31/2003 9:49:45 PM PDT by T'wit
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To: T'wit
Maurice Strong is a Canadian billionaire, (former) Board member of Petro-Canada and Dome Petroleum, and President of Ontario Hydro. He has been Director of the IUCN, Chairman of the Earth Council, Trustee of the Aspen Institute, Director of the World Future Society, Director of Finance for the Lindisfarne Association, founder of Planetary Citizens, member of the Club of Rome, Chairman of the World Resources Institute, and Co-Chairman and founder of the Council of the World Economic Forum and Senior Adviser to the President of the World Bank. He is President of the World Federation of United Nations Associations, Senior Advisor to the UN Secretary General and for the Rockefeller and Rothschild Trusts.

Other than that, you don't need to know much about Maurice Strong. Seeing his name associated with this kind of evil was all too predictable.

58 posted on 05/31/2003 10:21:18 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Could it be, that infants in Africa are being deliberately infected with AIDS during vaccination, as a form of post birth abortion, used as population control?

Why go to all that trouble when genocide is an annual event somewhere in Africa.

59 posted on 06/01/2003 4:31:42 AM PDT by JZoback (Don't have such an open mind, your brain falls out)
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To: T'wit
Nobody owes him any answers. Nobody has refused him current scientific research and information, either.

You are mistaken. Science is not run by the principles of human rights or free market. The scientists DO OWE the answers to the experts from their field if their theories are questioned.

The answers were not given to Duesberg (read his book or articles) and he could not find the date when he looked for it. I myself did the thourough search of original research publications and I verified the fact that the HIV/AIDS theory was not properly published. Searching circular empty references of the most recent publications is a chase after wind what I tried too.

60 posted on 06/01/2003 5:17:16 AM PDT by A. Pole
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