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Wolfowitz says Saudi troop withdrawal was 'huge' reason for war with Iraq
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Posted on 05/30/2003 1:11:24 PM PDT by fritter

Wolfowitz says Saudi troop withdrawal was 'huge' reason for war with Iraq

Associated Press

BRUSSELS, Belgium -- European critics of the Iraq war expressed shock Friday at published remarks by a senior U.S. official playing down Iraq's weapons of mass destruction as the reason for the conflict.

In an interview in the next issue of Vanity Fair magazine, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz cited "bureaucratic reasons" for focusing on Saddam Hussein's alleged arsenal and said a "huge" reason for the war was to enable Washington to withdraw its troops from Saudi Arabia.

"For bureaucratic reasons we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction, because it was the one reason everyone could agree on," Wolfowitz was quoted as saying.

He said one reason for going to war against Iraq that was "almost unnoticed but huge" was the need to maintain American forces in Saudi Arabia as long as Saddam was in power.

Those troops were sent to Saudi Arabia to protect the desert kingdom against Saddam, whose forces invaded Kuwait in 1991, but their presence in the country that houses Islam's holiest sites enraged Islamic fundamentalists, including Osama bin Laden.

Within two weeks of the fall of Baghdad, the United States announced it was removing most of its 5,000 troops from Saudi Arabia and would set up its main regional command center in Qatar.

However, those goals were not spelled out publicly as the United States sought to build international support for the war. Instead, the Bush administration focused on Saddam's failure to dismantle chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs.

The failure of U.S. forces to locate extensive weapons stocks has raised doubts in a skeptical Europe whether Iraq represented a global security threat.

Wolfowitz's comments followed a statement by Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, who suggested this week that Saddam might have destroyed his banned weapons before the war began.

On Friday, the commander of U.S. Marines in Iraq said he was surprised that extensive searches have failed to discover any of the chemical weapons that U.S. intelligence had indicated were supplied to front line Iraqi forces at the outset of the war.

"Believe me, it's not for lack of trying," Lt. Gen. James Conway told reporters. "We've been to virtually every ammunition supply point between the Kuwaiti border and Baghdad, but they're simply not there."

The remarks by Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld revived the controversy over the war as President Bush left for a European tour in which he hopes to put aside the bitterness over the war, which threatened the trans-Atlantic partnership.

In Denmark, whose government supported the war, opposition parties demanded to know whether Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen misled the public about the extent of Saddam's weapons threat.

"It was not what the Danish prime minister said when he advocated support for the war," Jeppe Kofod, the Social Democrats' foreign affairs spokesman, said in response to Wolfowitz's comments. "Those who went to war now have a big problem explaining it."

Former Danish Foreign Minister Niels Helveg Petersen said he was shocked by Wolfowitz's claim. "It leaves the world with one question: What should we believe?" he told The Associated Press.

In Germany, where the war was widely unpopular, the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeiting newspaper said the comments about Iraqi weapons showed that America is losing the battle for credibility.

"The charge of deception is inescapable," the newspaper said Friday.

In London, former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook, who quit as leader of the House of Commons to protest the war, said he doubted Iraq had any such weapons.

"The war was sold on the basis of what was described as a pre-emptive strike, 'Hit Saddam before he hits us,' " Cook told British Broadcasting Corp. "It is now quite clear that Saddam did not have anything with which to hit us in the first place."

During a visit to Poland, British Prime Minister Tony Blair said Friday he has "absolutely no doubt" that concrete evidence will be found of Saddam's weapons of mass destruction.

"Have a little patience," Blair told reporters.

Wolfowitz was in Singapore, where he is due to speak Saturday at the Asia Security Conference of military chiefs and defense ministers from Asian and key Western powers.

He told reporters at the conference that the United States will reorganize its forces worldwide to confront the threat of terrorism.

"We are in the process of taking a fundamental look at our military posture worldwide, including in the United States," Wolfowitz said. "We're facing a very different threat than any one we've faced historically."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bushdoctrineunfold; iraq; iraqifreedom; paulwolfowitz; warlist; whywefight
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To: GW469
So you believe that we should round up all of the children who were released from prison and lock them up again and we should invite Saddam Hussein back and apologize to him for interrupting his torture parties, then.

Not me. I'm proud that we ended that.
21 posted on 05/30/2003 1:59:58 PM PDT by alnick ("Never have so many been so wrong about so much." - Rummy)
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To: GW469
Al Qaida's stated reason for doing 9/11 was because we had troops in Saudi. We had troops in Saudi because of the Saddam threat. Therefore Saddam was the cause of 9/11. Simple isn't it. Remember the Presidents words "You are either with us or with the terrorists".

Perhaps you prefer terrorists. I don't.

22 posted on 05/30/2003 2:00:14 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe
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To: GW469
GW469 joined 30 May 2003.
23 posted on 05/30/2003 2:00:30 PM PDT by Jumpmaster
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To: aristeides
I believe this is it:

http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2003/tr20030509-depsecdef0223.html
24 posted on 05/30/2003 2:00:57 PM PDT by missdirect
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To: GW469; Admin Moderator
This administration is now in full damage control. You've got Rummy saying Iraq may have already destroyed its WMD stocks and Wolfowitz now backpeddaling and trying to claim that the major reason for the war was the placement of American troops in the Middle East? This is horse crap.

All we know at this point is that a liberal magazine is presenting these quotes. When we see the full context we may know more. As for your claim that all of the WMD allegations were bs, for 12 years the hussein regime has led ritter and blix around by their short hairs and the fact that in only about 6 weeks our troops have found only limited amounts of banned weapons and facilities to produce those weapons means that the military intelligence was failed. You can't see past your Bush-hating biases.

Troll Alert.

25 posted on 05/30/2003 2:03:51 PM PDT by VRWCmember (Stanley Cup - back to Jersey; NBA Title - back to Texas (San Antonio, that is))
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To: Jumpmaster
GW469 hasn't created an about page.
(probably won't have time)
26 posted on 05/30/2003 2:05:09 PM PDT by VRWCmember (Stanley Cup - back to Jersey; NBA Title - back to Texas (San Antonio, that is))
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To: dark_lord
It won't be a base with a Little America plunked in the middle of Irak. Rumsfeld is looking to create a far more agile force than we have had in the past. My ideal would be an Araby with an American flyswatter constantly poised to swat any roaches that appear.
27 posted on 05/30/2003 2:05:35 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: fritter
The complete quote instead of a Dowd-like excerpt:

"There are a lot of things that are different now, and one that has gone by almost unnoticed--but it's huge--is that by complete mutual agreement between the U.S. and the Saudi government we can now remove almost all of our forces from Saudi Arabia. Their presence there over the last 12 years has been a source of enormous difficulty for a friendly government. It's been a huge recruiting device for al Qaeda. In fact if you look at bin Laden, one of his principle grievances was the presence of so-called crusader forces on the holy land, Mecca and Medina. I think just lifting that burden from the Saudis is itself going to open the door to other positive things."
28 posted on 05/30/2003 2:05:56 PM PDT by rwfok
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To: All
I can't even find that quote in the transcript ...
29 posted on 05/30/2003 2:06:42 PM PDT by Mr. Buzzcut
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To: GW469
Because of the ten per cent. chance that SH DID have the weapons. My question is: if the guy Didn't have weapons, then why was he playing the game he was playing? Hell, he should have asked for a thousand inspectors.
30 posted on 05/30/2003 2:08:57 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: fritter
Let's see, the Coalition has found mobile fermenting and dispersal trailers, binary muntions, precursor chemicals, surface to surface missle which exceed the range limit, atropine distributed to the public, chem suits in very large quantities, mustard gas and cyanide in the river, nuclear facilities which enrich urainium, and the stuff I missed.

I'm just trying to keep track.

5.56mm

31 posted on 05/30/2003 2:10:11 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: fritter
***********The quote in question***************

Q: Was that one of the arguments that was raised early on by you and others that Iraq actually does connect, not to connect the dots too much, but the relationship between Saudi Arabia, our troops being there, and bin Laden's rage about that, which he's built on so many years, also connects the World Trade Center attacks, that there's a logic of motive or something like that? Or does that read too much into --

Wolfowitz: No, I think it happens to be correct. The truth is that for reasons that have a lot to do with the U.S. government bureaucracy we settled on the one issue that everyone could agree on which was weapons of mass destruction as the core reason, but -- hold on one second --

(Pause)

Kellems: Sam there may be some value in clarity on the point that it may take years to get post-Saddam Iraq right. It can be easily misconstrued, especially when it comes to --

Wolfowitz: -- there have always been three fundamental concerns. One is weapons of mass destruction, the second is support for terrorism, the third is the criminal treatment of the Iraqi people. Actually I guess you could say there's a fourth overriding one which is the connection between the first two. Sorry, hold on again.

Just another attempt to spin the truth by the media, foiled again.

32 posted on 05/30/2003 2:11:35 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Mr. Buzzcut
Never mind ... it is ...

Wolfowitz: No, I think it happens to be correct. The truth is that for reasons that have a lot to do with the U.S. government bureaucracy we settled on the one issue that everyone could agree on which was weapons of mass destruction as the core reason, but -- hold on one second --

(Pause)

Kellems: Sam there may be some value in clarity on the point that it may take years to get post-Saddam Iraq right. It can be easily misconstrued, especially when it comes to --

Wolfowitz: -- there have always been three fundamental concerns. One is weapons of mass destruction, the second is support for terrorism, the third is the criminal treatment of the Iraqi people. Actually I guess you could say there's a fourth overriding one which is the connection between the first two. Sorry, hold on again.

33 posted on 05/30/2003 2:11:58 PM PDT by Mr. Buzzcut
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To: GW469
All if it was BS

How do you know that the weapons weren't wisked away to Syria or Russia (or France) right before the war?

35 posted on 05/30/2003 2:14:07 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: GW469
Please state a single fact that supports your assertion that the administration is in "full damage control". One fact. Just one.
36 posted on 05/30/2003 2:15:16 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: fritter
Alright FReepers...and other Conservatives who monitor this site. Dont get involved in this discussion...it is bitter cackling from the planet's left who are looking for anything to bash right thinking people with.

If you ignore the discussion...then the only people talking about it are the Liberals...and truth be told...right now none of them have any credibility.

Dont touch it...you only give weight to the topic.
37 posted on 05/30/2003 2:15:40 PM PDT by VaBthang4 (Could someone show me one [1] Loserdopian elected to the federal government?)
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To: rwfok
Thanks for the link.
38 posted on 05/30/2003 2:19:53 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: GW469
To follow your thesis, one first has to believe that the UN inspectors, who listed all the WMD's after the 1991 Gulf War, were lying.

Saddam never provided proof of the destruction of chemical and biological weapons. Why not?

Then, one must also believe that Blair and the British Intelligence service also lied.

Then, you must believe that not only did the President lie, but also Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell, Rice, and all the people under them, and not one person leaked.

Then, you must believe that the President and his co-conspirators acted knowing that they were lying, and took no notice of the fact that if weapons weren't found, idiots like you would whine and accuse them of lying.

And finally, if there were no WMD's in Iraq, what accounts for the mustard gas, mobile biological labs, radioactive drums, poison in the Euphrates River, atropine kits issued to Iraqi soldiers, barrels of pesticides (precursor chemicals) found in multiple sites, hollow warheads fitted for chemical usage, illegal missiles, and the like?

The most logical answer is that we simply haven't found the stuff yet. We will.

40 posted on 05/30/2003 2:20:12 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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