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Liberals need to get hip to young conservatives
TownHall.com ^ | May 30, 2003 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 05/30/2003 10:48:13 AM PDT by rattrap

When liberals wear ties and jackets, it's not news. But for some reason, when conservatives put on baggy jeans, it's a huge story.

That seems to be the upshot of a recent cover story of The New York Times magazine titled "The Young Hipublicans," which explores the world of campus conservatives. The teaser for the article says it all: "No taxes, no gun control -but these days blue blazers and gay bashing are not required. College conservatives have learned that by acting like everybody else, they can sway their peers and become the most influential political act on campus."

The article, written by John Colapinto, is full of observations like this one: "Today, most campus conservatives who hope to be effective won't dress like George Bush or Dick Cheney. The idea is to dress like a young person."

In other words, campus conservatives are traveling in mufti -putting on the costumes of liberals and common folk -in order to be taken seriously by the left. As the author says, "The idea is to dress like a young person." The fact that these campus conservatives are, in fact, young people is inconsequential. We know that if these young conservatives could have their way, they'd be wearing topsiders and khakis, slapping around the nearest gay guy they could find.

According to Colapinto, the "idea" to wear ostensibly "hip" clothes comes as much -if not more so -from a web of off-campus rightwing organizations. In fact, these groups provide more than fashion tips. Outfits such as the Intercollegiate Studies Institute and the Young America's Foundation provide the kids with talking points, which include not only useful sound bites on guns and taxes but also advice about how to loosen up and use humor in their arguments.

Indeed, according to Colapinto, "most" of what campus conservatives have to say "is something that someone told them to say." Presumably, the bosses of these youth outreach offices for the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy are the ones who made the decision to lift the blue blazer dress code and to abolish the "requirement" to gay-bait.

The Times' article, complete with the usual unflattering photography - all of the conservative kids look like humorless pod people from "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" - is really just the latest chapter in a long story about how the liberal media establishment has a difficult time understanding that conservatives are normal people.

I don't know if it's ego or ideology, but an astounding share of liberals seem sincerely flummoxed by the idea that conservatives aren't nerds. Oh, don't get me wrong, there are plenty of conservative nerds -in fact some of then are my best friends.

But what makes them nerds is the fact they're nerds. Public policy attracts a disproportionate share of geeky people. What liberals seem to miss is that this is true regardless of ideology. Being leftwing doesn't make nerds cool; it makes them leftwing nerds.

Consider, for example, Michael Lind. You probably haven't heard of him. But he's an influential and extremely bright young intellectual. He used to work at a conservative public policy magazine called The Public Interest. About eight years ago, he quit the magazine and conservatism altogether, sliding to the left on a bunch of issues. All of the sudden, according to the liberal establishment, Lind became hip and cool - attributes those who knew him when he was a conservative never, ever saw in him.

Rolling Stone christened him "what's hot." Lind told The New Yorker that Washington is full of "dweeby white guys." True enough -and Michael Lind could have been the captain of their chess team. But simply because Lind switched ideological affiliations, The New Yorker chose to christen him "a recovering dweeby white guy."

Some of this might have its roots in baby boomer mythology. Children of the 1960s grew up in an age when the personal was political. Taking drugs and listening to rock music seemed to be of a piece with opposing Vietnam and supporting civil rights. Promiscuous sex was not only fun, it was the result of the feminist movement. Tune in, turn on, drop out was a political, as well as a cultural, statement.

So those who rebelled against all of that - the conservatives - might have seemed real squares. Of course, there's a lot of propaganda and revisionism in this version of history, but the liberal boomers tend to believe it anyway.

Which is why we still read stories about liberals who are shocked that conservatives are hip or simply that they don't eat their young. This shock translates itself into condescension; conservative success must be attributable to sophisticated string-pullers.

Rightwing kids must be dressing like normal students as part of some strategy, not because they're normal kids.

The irony is that this sort of coverage reveals that the liberal establishment is as out of touch as it was in the 1960s. But now the rebels are the conservatives - which even The New York Times recognizes, finally.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: generationy; hipublicans; jonahgoldberg
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I see this all the time, I dress like a young person (I am a relatively young person) and people automatically assume(often) that I'm all about their hippie politics. It's fun though, I often get to give them an earful.
1 posted on 05/30/2003 10:48:13 AM PDT by rattrap
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To: jern; wimpycat; dubyaismypresident
Ping
2 posted on 05/30/2003 10:52:37 AM PDT by Constitution Day (**FOX NEWS ALERT** Scott Peterson had a diet Coke at lunch. **THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT**)
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To: rattrap
I'm a blues musician, and when people who hang in those circles find out I'm a conservative it blows their mind.
3 posted on 05/30/2003 10:53:58 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: rattrap
"Today, most campus conservatives who hope to be effective won't dress like George Bush or Dick Cheney. The idea is to dress like a young person."

"Because everyone knows they're not actually human! Merely facsimiles!"

Gawd, I hate commies! They're so f-in' stupid!

4 posted on 05/30/2003 10:54:44 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (All generalizations are false.)
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To: rattrap
What is happening I predicted years ago - the self-congratulatory, self-aggrandizing left, always correct, always hip, always rebellious and romantic, has evolved, over time, into the boring, lockstep, conformist establishment that they used to mock. Youth has a natural affinity for outsiders, and they quite correctly judge (despite vociferous denials on the part of the rapidly ossifying left) that the outsiders are, at the present, politically conservative. Some, I'm sure, are only doing it to irritate their Greenpeace-bumper-sticker-bearing parents. For others it's a more permanent thing. Politics is a pendulum.
5 posted on 05/30/2003 10:56:32 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Mr. Mojo
Yeah i play in an "extreme" (hate that word) metal band, i really get it a lot.
6 posted on 05/30/2003 10:59:42 AM PDT by rattrap
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To: rattrap
People would have a hard time telling my politics by the way I dress. I hardly ever wear a tie at work, much less at play. (Though I can do the full Brooks Brothers thing if I have to.)

Some of my snowboarder friends are total hippy libs and it's fun arguing politics with them. They think Noam Chomsky is the best philospher since, like, you know.
7 posted on 05/30/2003 11:00:32 AM PDT by jjm2111 (`)
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To: jjm2111
They think Noam Chomsky is the best philospher since, like, you know

duuuuuuuude.

8 posted on 05/30/2003 11:10:29 AM PDT by Huck
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To: rattrap
It's fun though, I often get to give them an earful.

How true! I'm 34 and can count the occasions I've worn a suit on one hand.

I remember the College Republicans at CSU twelve years ago. They all thought they had to dress like Alex P. Keaton --everyday, all the time.

9 posted on 05/30/2003 11:11:40 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: jjm2111
Some of my snowboarder friends are total hippy libs and it's fun arguing politics with them.

Last weekend, I was arguing with a 22 year-old college student and dedicated democrat. He asked me to name one thing that JFK did that was bad for the country. I replied that JFK sent the first troops to Vietnam.

He bellowed back, "JFK DID NOT SEND TROOPS TO VIETNAM!!!"

He looked at me like I was wearing tinfoil on my head for even suggesting that JFK had anything to do with America's involvement in Vietnam.

At this point, I had an idea of the mindset that I would be arguing with. Arguing with libs is often like this.

Please pardon my off-topic rant.

10 posted on 05/30/2003 11:20:15 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68; Huck; rattrap
The original article is fascinating. It written with the typical left-wing bias but what it DOESN't say is almost as interesting as what it does.

I'm 26 and I was apolitical until after college. I have to say is that many, many liberals my age are very, very ignorant.

Some of the stuff that the original article said is very true about people my age and younger. I think some of the stuff about the clothes rings with the fact that many young people do not associate freaky clothes (and piercings) with evil or immoral behavior. Someone could be a wonderful person and have a nose ring and wear leather. Also conservatives in their twenties (at least in the Northeast) are far less concerned about gays. That part of the article was spot on. They might not approve on a personal level, but do not thing it's the government's business telling people what they can or can not do in their bedroom.


I was at a Young Republican's meeting where this thirty-something loser was giving all the youngins' a hard time for not wearing ties. All the young people were laughing at him.
11 posted on 05/30/2003 11:33:30 AM PDT by jjm2111 (`)
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To: Drew68
I'm 34 and can count the occasions I've worn a suit on one hand.

I'm 32 and can count it on one finger.

12 posted on 05/30/2003 12:06:50 PM PDT by tdadams
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To: rattrap
I, too, am a young musician (and I am in an "extreme death metal" band as well). People see tattoos and automatically think "liberal". When I tell them that I am more conservative than Republicans, or start talking about gun control, the drug war, social security, income tax, etc... it totally blows them away!

I usually have to explain to them that freedom loving people who are not "Alex Keaton" type guys are usually called "libertarians" and that being a Young Republican doesn't mean you swill champagne at the yacht club or some crap like that.

Personally, the best is watching their heads nearly implode during a rational debate. Something most liberals can not deal with!

bc2 says metal forever!

13 posted on 05/30/2003 12:59:17 PM PDT by bc2
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To: rattrap
You should have been around in the 60s and 70s. When you came up with some conservatism, the hippies would get extremely pissed. I guess they had figured that long hair and bell bottoms automatically meant that you were a lefty.
14 posted on 05/30/2003 1:00:37 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: tdadams
I'm 32 and can count it on one finger.

Lucky bastard.
15 posted on 05/30/2003 1:10:32 PM PDT by jjm2111 (`)
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To: tdadams
28 and i can say the same
16 posted on 05/30/2003 1:13:38 PM PDT by rattrap (DEATH TO FALSE METAL!)
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To: rattrap
Liberals need to get hip to young conservatives

Yeah, stop being such total Clydes and Harveys, ya' squares.

17 posted on 05/30/2003 1:20:19 PM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: jjm2111
Surfer here. I have actually run into some Conservative surfers in the water. Actually met a few in the water on 9/11/01, but overall surfers are way liberal and hate GWB.

At Swarthmore College I was know as THE Republican. People expected gays to be locked up in my fraternity basement or something. You could really blow some minds by showing some intelligence and using rational thinking. Of course the Professors were a lost cause.
18 posted on 05/30/2003 1:25:53 PM PDT by CollegeRepublican
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To: rattrap
This article is about the stupidest thing I've seen all week, besides the reporters on tv talking about Scott Petersens makeover again.

It is not what you do or what you wear, it is what you think. Why is it the libs are so pissed of about profiling, yet they pass judgement based on stereotypical things such as jeans and a haircut?

I have a serious tie collection and wear suits that make women drool. I have the coolest sunglasses on the planet, and my hair ranges from buzz to surfer. I could be as hip or sloppy as I want to be, and it won't change that I think Gore was an idiot and that Bush is the man.

All that aside, I am ranging towards the surfer haircut and it is driving me crazy in the heat. My barber, the only person who has EVER cut my hair, had a serious stroke last month and isn't cutting hair right now or anymore I fear. So if anyone in the Sacto regional area has a good one, please FReepmail me with contact info...or if you are a barber even better!

19 posted on 05/30/2003 1:27:35 PM PDT by ScottinSacto
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To: jjm2111; rattrap; CollegeRepublican
I know what you mean! I just graduated from college, and I was the head of the local Young Americans for Freedom chapter. The only time I wore suits in any club function was when we brought speakers in or when I went to CPAC. Most of the time, I wore t-shirts, cargo pants or semi-baggy jeans, and "skater" sneakers, and when it got cooler, and threw on a hooded sweatjacket. This was what many of friends in garage bands (most of the liberal) wore. I must have gotten on some people's nerves, for the must have seen it me being a "poseur" or something, when it was nothing of the sort. I went to Catholic schools in grade and high school, and I had to wear dress shirts, ties, and dress pants all the time. I was glad to take a break from that in colllege. Now that I'm working full-time, it's back to suits again. But I still like wearing casual clothes like that.

Besides clothes, I listen to punk, emo, emocore, mainstream rock, "alternative," and Jimi Hendrix/Led Zeppelin/other rock classics. I like to watch anime. Most of my friends have leftist viewpoints. So I guess I'm a "Hip-Publican," or rather, a "hip conservative."

20 posted on 05/30/2003 1:35:10 PM PDT by Pyro7480 (+ Vive Jesus! (Live Jesus!) +)
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