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To: tdadams
I would dare say you are not correct. Not all societies through all of time has considered homosexuality aberrant or harmful.

That's true, but those that thought otherwise did not last, and the people who came after them returned to an exclusively heterosexual society. They saw the results and applied them such that we still recognize homoerotic behavior as aberrant and harmful. Been there, done that, know it's stupid.

And 6,000 years ago, people thought the earth was flat. Why should we change the status quo?

Because we've been to the moon and know it is not.

Can you see the distinction. WRT homoerotic behavior all the evidence is against it, where as with a spherical earth all the evidence is in favor of it.

A far better example for you to have used would have been slavery. And there were many who probably argued against abolition as being a change to the status quo. But once it was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that blacks were not sub-human, slavery had to go. Evidence that slavery was wrong, coupled with the fact that our society is stronger for abolishing it, are sufficient to justify never reestablishing the age-old institution of slavery.

Why should we normalize homoerotic behavior? Give me one good reason.

Shalom.

137 posted on 06/02/2003 9:35:50 AM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: ArGee
That's true, but those that thought otherwise did not last, and the people who came after them returned to an exclusively heterosexual society.

And we can all be certain that their demise was due solely to their tolerance of homosexuality, right?

A far better example for you to have used would have been slavery. And there were many who probably argued against abolition as being a change to the status quo. But once it was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that blacks were not sub-human, slavery had to go.

You know you're right. That is a good analogy. I would suggest to you that we are in the midst of a very similar cultural shift where a good number of people, perhaps soon a majority if not already, see homosexuals as fully human also and wish for them to participate in the full range of rights and dignities as all others without having to pretend they're something they're not.

138 posted on 06/02/2003 9:42:50 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: ArGee
My point about the flat earth was why cling to the status quo simply for the sake of staving off uncomfortable change? We live in a post-Roe v. Wade America, but I would guess you wouldn't cling to the status quo on that issue. Am I right?

Societal changes may not be as perceptible as seeing the earth from the moon, but societies, cultures, and common ways of thinking do change. They are changing. You can choose to be anachronistic if that suits your personality. You can deny the changing world around you and fight it if you choose, but that only leaves you standing still while the world moves on without you, making you more and more irrelevant.

139 posted on 06/02/2003 9:49:54 AM PDT by tdadams
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