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To: ArGee
That's true, but those that thought otherwise did not last, and the people who came after them returned to an exclusively heterosexual society.

And we can all be certain that their demise was due solely to their tolerance of homosexuality, right?

A far better example for you to have used would have been slavery. And there were many who probably argued against abolition as being a change to the status quo. But once it was proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that blacks were not sub-human, slavery had to go.

You know you're right. That is a good analogy. I would suggest to you that we are in the midst of a very similar cultural shift where a good number of people, perhaps soon a majority if not already, see homosexuals as fully human also and wish for them to participate in the full range of rights and dignities as all others without having to pretend they're something they're not.

138 posted on 06/02/2003 9:42:50 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: tdadams
And we can all be certain that their demise was due solely to their tolerance of homosexuality, right?

C'mon, don't play games with me. What we can be certain of is that homoerotic tolerance did not lead to longevity, nor did it recommend itself to the civilizations that followed. If it had been a good idea, don't you think it would have caught on?

You know you're right. That is a good analogy. I would suggest to you that we are in the midst of a very similar cultural shift where a good number of people, perhaps soon a majority if not already, see homosexuals as fully human also and wish for them to participate in the full range of rights and dignities as all others without having to pretend they're something they're not.

With a huge difference. Black slavery is different from any other slavery ever encountered in history because it was based on the absurd notion that people could be "sub-human", a notion you can lay at the feet of Charles Darwin and those whose opinions he followed. The flawed concept was that blacks were something other than human.

Homosexuals have never been accused of being something other than human. If they were thought to be different, they would be much more tolerable. The problem is that everyone knows that homosexuals are human and knows they are mentally ill. The only argument the gays have left to them is, "If it hurts nobody, why bother about it?" The answer to that is clear, if gays would keep their sexual preference private, we wouldn't bother about it. It's their attempt to politicize their private sexual habits that have caused them the problem.

I told you that slavery was a better analogy, it was still not a good one. You should know better than to accept a handout from your opponent. His goal is to defeat you, not help you.

See if you can find an example of a behavior that was known for all of recorded history to be wrong, and has been shown in recent times to be normal. That's the kind of analogy you want.

Shalom.

140 posted on 06/02/2003 9:50:40 AM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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