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The 'gay' truth: Kevin McCullough on homosexuality dominating American politics
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, May 30, 2003 | Kevin McCullough

Posted on 05/29/2003 11:42:24 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

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To: pram
No, that was a sincere answer, thank you.

I love California. I would love to live there. I even once got a great job offer there. But I turned it down. Between ridiculous housing prices, ridiculous taxes and regulation, and a hopelessly liberal cabal of legislators, I decided I could not live in California.

261 posted on 06/04/2003 9:14:44 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: pram
I'm curious that "there is a state law mandating homosexualist education". Which law is this? I've not heard of it.

In any case, take a look outside California, seriously. Cows will be doing ballet before any law mandating the teaching of homosexuality passes in my state.

262 posted on 06/04/2003 9:20:42 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: tdadams
In 2001 the state legislature in CA mandated that some kind of cirriculum be taught in grades K-12 to indoctrinate kids to be positive about homosexuality. I don't know the exact wording of the law altough I have read quite a bit about it. I have read articles in local newspapers and letters to the editor about it. It is a law. I don't live in CA, but nearby (10 miles). Even if I never live there, should I just shrug and not care of the kids in CA go to hell as long as I'm ok?
263 posted on 06/04/2003 10:05:19 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: pram
Even if I never live there, should I just shrug and not care of the kids in CA go to hell as long as I'm ok?

Well, good luck solving the problems of the world.

But if I lived in California and this law is in fact what you say it is, I guarantee you my kids would not be in public school.

264 posted on 06/04/2003 10:15:41 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: tdadams; ArGee; L.N. Smithee
ArGee: "There has been a change recently to normalize homosexuality...done with violence and threats combined with a general effort to cover up the facts."

tdadams: "You are really looking through a delusional and conspiratorial set of lenses. It's almost amuzing."


ArGee is correct, as a recent example shows:

Hate Crimes Charges Sought Against Homosexual Protestors

The Catholic Action League of Massachusetts is seeking state and federal hate crimes charges against homosexual protestors who "disturbed" Sunday's Mass at Boston's Cathedral of the Holy Cross.

"This was a bigoted expression of contempt for Catholics," C.J. Doyle, executive director of the league, told CNSNews.com. Doyle referred to the protest as "a premeditated assault on the First Amendment religious freedom rights of Catholics" and "a very crude intimidation tactic intended to silence Catholic opposition to same-sex marriage.

"But it was also a crime," Doyle said...

Doyle added: "We have a long history of these kinds of hate crimes going on here in Boston." He mentioned a 1990 incident where "condoms were thrown at priests, and obscenities were shouted at worshippers during ordinations" and a 1991 incident where "mock homosexual weddings were taking place on the steps of the cathedral.

"In 2001, we had a group of homosexual militants who harassed signature gatherers outside of Catholic churches when they would attempt to gather signatures for a protection of marriage amendment," Doyle said. "So we have a long history of very thuggish, very aggressive behavior."


265 posted on 06/04/2003 11:37:02 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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To: EdReform
I thought there was no such thing as hate crimes.
266 posted on 06/04/2003 12:04:44 PM PDT by tdadams
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To: tdadams
There shouldn't be. However, I'm forced to agree with the following statement from that article:

"If you're going to have hate crimes for one section of the population, you've got to have hate crimes for all segments of the population," Carr said. "Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander."


Of course you completely ignored the sentence about abusive, threatening homosexual behavior:

"So we have a long history of very thuggish, very aggressive behavior."


Guess I should have highlighted it for you.

267 posted on 06/04/2003 12:32:11 PM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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To: tdadams
Well, good luck solving the problems of the world.

IOW, let everyone else go to hell.

Will you admit that by such legislation (and others similar no doubt pending) the homo agenda is being spread agressively to influence children?

268 posted on 06/05/2003 9:24:47 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: pram
IOW, let everyone else go to hell.

Spare me the sanctimonious routine. There are 6 billion people in the world. When you decide to carry the weight of all of them, then you can give me that speech.

269 posted on 06/05/2003 9:32:51 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: tdadams
Will you admit that by such legislation (and others similar no doubt pending) the homo agenda is being spread agressively to influence children?

You didn't answer my question.

270 posted on 06/05/2003 9:39:40 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: pram
Yes, I have. Read the thread.
271 posted on 06/05/2003 9:53:56 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: tdadams
I have read the thread. You haven't answered my question.
272 posted on 06/05/2003 10:26:16 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: pram
Your question is the same as has been asked by scripter, Remedy, EdReform, and Polycarp. I've answered the question. Should I answer it for a fifth time just for you?
273 posted on 06/05/2003 11:15:25 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: tdadams
When i asked you my question about homosexual indocrination in CA schools, you were not aware of the law. You have not answered my question, about teaching children about homosexuality - or rather, indoctrinating them (since a 100% positive picture is painted, no negatives, and in fact any child who thinks homosexuality to be wrong or not healthy is ridiculed in class) - do you think this is a good thing or a bad thing?
274 posted on 06/05/2003 11:19:46 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: pram
OK, for the fifth (actually about the two dozenth) time: The teaching of ANY sexuality to school kids is wrong. The parents in their home is the only appropriate forum and the only appropriate people to be discussing sexuality with kids. That is my opinion.
275 posted on 06/05/2003 11:26:43 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: tdadams
You've stated this as if someone wants to create an entirely homosexual society, which of course could not exist. But that's not at all what we're talking about and you know that. But to the extent that you're trying to misrepresent the facts simply to buttress an unsupportable premise, you're simply being outright dishonest.

That's a very clever "as if" you stuck in there, only to go on and rebut something I have never said nor implied.

That 2% only wants to be left alone, you say. But their behavior doesn't support that. Once they learn they have been left alone, then they move on to defining a hate crime to think they are wrong. They move on to indoctrinate school children that anyone who thinks they are wrong are hateful. They move on to ask school children if they have ever wondered if they might be gay (I am not implying a predatory reason, just pointing out a fact) and encouraging youth to experiment at a time of well recognized sexual confusion.

There is a problem that needs addressing. It is not served by you making up comments that you can address while ignoring what I have actually said.

Can you give one good reason why we should change centuries of tradition and law to normalize homoerotic behavior? I'm only asking for one.

Shalom.

276 posted on 06/06/2003 8:51:09 AM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: tdadams
Yes, there are some who have a radical agenda to pass hate crimes laws and present themelves in schools as an equally viable alternative lifestyle and those who want to force themselves into the Boy Scouts. Those things are all wrong and should be opposed.

Thank you for a very clear statement.

But that's not to say that it's not possible to peacefully coexist with the average homosexual who lives a quiet life and harms no one, which I believe is the vast majority.

That such a homosexual does exist could theoretically be possible. I doubt it, though, because mental illness is rarely so compartmentalized. We could go off onto people who are not homosexual who have similar illnesses. They aren't happy to just be left alone. They need to spread the misery. Why? I don't know, but it happens all the time.

Homosexual attraction is a mental illness. It is not particularly debilitating if it only results in two people of the same sex having a quiet relationship together. But it is an illness. If there are gays who are happy to live together quietly, they will find that I quietly support them in the specific (as the many gays I know do). But the very real homosexual agenda exists precisely because homosexual attraction is a mental illness. In the specific, our culture is being destroyed by the homosexual agenda and it needs to be fought. One way to fight it is to quit pretending that gays are just like straights only different.

Shalom.

277 posted on 06/06/2003 9:00:33 AM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: tdadams
Spare me the sanctimonious routine. There are 6 billion people in the world. When you decide to carry the weight of all of them, then you can give me that speech.

Are you familiar with the story of the boy who was throwing starfish back into the ocean?

Shalom.

278 posted on 06/06/2003 9:05:25 AM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: ArGee
Homosexual attraction is a mental illness.

I understand you're particular beliefs require you to cling to this anachronism, but please don't insult the intelligence of the medical community and other reasoned thinkers by pretending it's the factual truth.

279 posted on 06/06/2003 9:54:39 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: tdadams
you're your
280 posted on 06/06/2003 9:57:55 AM PDT by tdadams
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