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What Goes Around Comes Around - Blair to be charged with war crimes by International Criminal Court!
newsmax.com ^ | May 29, 2003 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 05/29/2003 4:20:31 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

The BBC reports that British Prime Minister Tony Blair is about to be charged as a war criminal by the Greek Bar Association before the International Criminal Court. Dimitris Paxinos, president of the lawyers' association, told the BBC that Blair will be charged with "crimes against humanity and war crimes." President George Bush escapes being charged, as the United States is not a signatory to the ICC.

The Greeks claim that the U.S.-U.K. invasion of Iraq violates the United Nations Charter, the Geneva Convention, the Hague Convention and the International Criminal Court's statute.

Paxinos, who was elected by a conservative majority, says he is confident that the evidence compiled by the bar association is strong.

Until recently, charges against a head of state could be laughed away. Unfortunately for Tony Blair, he created the precedent for extraditing heads of state. The Blair government arrested Chile's Augusto Pinochet and ruled that Pinochet could be extradited to Spain on specious charges brought by a Spanish prosecutor.

Arrested in October 1998 while in London for back surgery, the 82-year-old Pinochet was held in England under house arrest while the majesty of British law decided his fate. The stress on Pinochet of the drawn-out proceedings resulted in two strokes.

His health destroyed, an 84-year-old Pinochet was released by Blair's Home Secretary, Jack Straw, in March 2000 and was allowed to return to Chile.

Pinochet was a victim of Soviet propaganda. He was head of the Chilean army in 1973 when it was forced by popular demand and appeal from the elected legislature to overthrow Salvador Allende, who was turning Chile into a Soviet client state.

Pinochet had to combat Marxist terrorists during the 1970s and 1980s, using the equivalent of the U.S. PATRIOT Act and military detention a la the U.S. camp at Guantanamo Bay. With far fewer resources, Pinochet successfully put down a far greater terrorist threat than the one currently faced by the United States.

During these years, Pinochet revived Chile's broken economy and restored the country's legal and political systems. He succeeded, because he turned the government over to civilian ministers with graduate educations from the University of Chicago and Harvard.

He authorized a group of leading citizens to create a new constitution that would restore democracy and representative government and used referendum to legitimize the new political system.

Pinochet kept to the time schedule he had established and stepped down as president of Chile in 1990, just as he said he would.

Pinochet was demonized by the international political left, and his health and retirement were destroyed as a consequence.

Pinochet did not fight terrorism by invading foreign countries. The total number of terrorists killed by the Chilean military is a fraction of the recent Iraqi civilian casualties at the hands of U.S. and U.K. forces. Pinochet never dropped bombs on civilians or sent missiles into residential neighborhoods.

At the time Pinochet was arrested by Blair's government as a sop to the political left, the International Criminal Court did not exist. Cornell University Professor Jeremy Rabkin demonstrated that there was no international law giving Spain jurisdiction over Chile or giving Spanish magistrate Baltasar Garzon jurisdiction over Pinochet.

Garzon hoped to create such a law by asserting it, and Blair foolishly went along.

In 1998, it did not occur to Blair that five years later he would be roped into invading Iraq on trumped-up charges that it was a hotbed of al-Qaeda terrorists equipped with weapons of mass destruction.

Now Blair finds himself with a nasty bit of aggression on his record and as many as 10,000 civilian casualties. That puts him in league with Slobodan Milosovic, who at least was fighting terrorist separatists within his own borders.

It is fairly certain that the Blair government is not going to hand over Blair to the Greeks or to the ICC. If it did, Bush would send in the Special Forces to rescue him. But if the ICC issues a warrant, Blair won't be able to go to Greece or to any country that might hand him over to the ICC.

Indeed, once Blair achieves his goal of dissolving Great Britain into the European Union, there will be no sovereign British government to protect him. He could be picked up at will by EU police and handed over to the ICC.

With the United States becoming a multicultural Tower of Babel, who is to know that Bush, too, in his old age won't be handed over by a Hispanic president who has no concern for vanquished Anglo-American hegemony or agreements between vanished cultures and nations.


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
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To: Tailgunner Joe
this is the Blair that disarmed Brittain, yes?

this is the Blair that supported the US smackdown of saddam, yes?

this is the Blair that supported the ICC, yes?

hmmmm. sounds like a populist problem. indictment? hmmmm.

wonder if x42 has advise for him...
61 posted on 05/29/2003 6:01:32 PM PDT by glock rocks (shoot fast. shoot straight. shoot safe. practice. carry. molon labe)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
These kangaroo courts keep popping up in all kinds of third-world, not-exactly-western-democracy locations. Wish we would obliterate any city where one of these roach motels are located :).
62 posted on 05/29/2003 6:04:36 PM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
native Mexicans and new arrivals are overwhelmingly Anti-American.

The proposition was political values.

Recent immigrants may not be assimilating but their culture is conservative.

Your posture seems to imply that these recent immigrants may attempt to secede. That may be, but I think they will adopt their new culture and embrace our system once they are in control of several border states. Remember they fled a corrupt system and I doubt they will want to come under its influence again.

63 posted on 05/29/2003 6:09:10 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: MadIvan
thoughts?
64 posted on 05/29/2003 6:22:45 PM PDT by glock rocks (shoot fast. shoot straight. shoot safe. practice. carry. molon labe)
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To: Amerigomag
Beware of greeks bearing gifts or geeks wearing gilt or whatever. The greeks have not amounted to a fiddler's fart in 2000 years, and this sort of mischief does not improve their status as a nation of the second tier-- which is to say that there are at least a hundred nations of more consequence than Greece by any reasonable measure now and there is little about Greece to suggest they will be moving up rather than down in the hierarchy of nations any time soon.Fortunately, we have a lot of intellegent and charming and productive Greeks in America-- maybe more of them than are left in the old country. If they had stayed in Greece, perhaps that benighted country might have prospered a little, but the Greek expatriates who settled in America had reasons to leave there, and reasons to come here and not somewhere else. Our gain; Greece's loss.
65 posted on 05/29/2003 6:30:13 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: Tailgunner Joe
10,000 casualites? Best info I have read so far is that possibly as few as 400 - 500 Iraqi civilians lost their lives in the Iraq War. It's quite a stretch to believe that another 9,500 were injured.

Those claiming such a high number of civilian casualities need to provide indisputable proof. After all, the injured are still alive, so it should be quite easy to count them and get a credible story about exactly how they were injured.

66 posted on 05/29/2003 6:46:00 PM PDT by beckett
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Alot of this has to do with the protestors. The people who organized the anti-war protests have set this up. This is just a gut feeling I have. They have decided since they could not stop the war they were going to bring Blair and Bush up on war crimes. I swear I think Bill Clinton is giving advice to these people too. They can't get Bush on their AWOL theory so the next thing they want to try is war crimes. Watch out next for the 9/11 conspiracy to go full swing soon with the help of Graham. The Democreeps are in cohoots with the Euroweenies to get rid of Bush!
67 posted on 05/29/2003 6:49:13 PM PDT by areafiftyone (The U.N. needs a good Flush!)
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To: mathurine
Our gain; Greece's loss

The essence of the US culture. Immigration.

68 posted on 05/29/2003 7:17:53 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Tailgunner Joe
What is good for Milosevic is good for Blair.
69 posted on 05/29/2003 7:47:16 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: Alas Babylon!
You left out one - Saddam Hussain. Interesting that these kangaroos charge someone who helped free Iraq from a real war criminal.
70 posted on 05/29/2003 7:48:01 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The Greeks claim that the U.S.-U.K. invasion of Iraq violates the United Nations Charter, the Geneva Convention, the Hague Convention and the International Criminal Court's statute.

I wonder if they would say the same about Saddam Hussein.

71 posted on 05/29/2003 7:55:30 PM PDT by yonif
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To: Alas Babylon!
Sure. They'll be charged just as soon as there are frost warnings in hell.

It's really a shame that stupidity isn't illegal.
72 posted on 05/29/2003 10:16:49 PM PDT by Valin (Age and deceit beat youth and skill)
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To: Dog Gone
It's "NewsMax"...
73 posted on 05/29/2003 10:31:16 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: X-USAF
The last report I heard from Iraqi doctors reporting from Iraqi hospitals was that there were fewer than 3,000 civilian casualties.
74 posted on 05/29/2003 10:39:37 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Let them eat cake.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
This is shocking, disgusting and outrageous. Maybe the "International Criminal Court" socialist scumbags should consider prosecuting Saddam Hussein's henchmen rather than a leader of the free world like Blair. The Greeks are a disgrace too, if it weren't for Britain they would have been part of the Soviet Empire, but perhaps they wouldn't have minded considering how much they love all things Russian.

Blair was a fool to ratify the ICC treaty. The ICC is a joke it won't go after psychopathic dictators (since they are friends of France and Germany), instead it will try to damage the leaders of democratic countries who make unpopular military decisions.

75 posted on 05/30/2003 4:32:18 AM PDT by David Hunter
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To: ewing
Is Michael Moore chief justice of this tribunal?

So far nearly seventy celebrities, including Harry Belafonte, Chevy Chase, Richard Dreyfuss, Mike Farrell, Susan Sarandon, Noah Wyle and others, have signed a letter urging senators to "support U.S. engagement with the Victims Trust Fund and the International Criminal Court."

76 posted on 06/06/2003 9:22:02 PM PDT by optimistically_conservative
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Blair is guilty of crimes against humanity, but Saddam was not. This is insanity.
77 posted on 06/06/2003 9:25:20 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Of course even if Saddam Insane is still alive and captured ... they wouldn't dare charge him with human rights violations let alone how he treated prisoners on trumped up charges. Nah, charge Bush and Blair with war crimes.
78 posted on 06/06/2003 9:27:59 PM PDT by nmh
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To: Mister Baredog
I believe our last President was FOR the ICC, correct me if I'm wrong.

I believe you are correct. I will add I believe Jesse Helms said "In your dreams".

79 posted on 06/06/2003 9:37:40 PM PDT by Vinnie
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