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WMD still Awol?
The Daily Brew ^ | May 29, 03 | some liberal smartass with a point

Posted on 05/29/2003 3:32:34 PM PDT by LibertyBelt

Is more time going to turn these assurances into validity, or expose them to to be lies? This is getting to be like proof for evolution when there are NO intermediary fossils. I"m willing to wait longer, sure enough, but Bush and Co. better damn well hope substantial proof of what we were assured existed, and formed the justification for the war....

Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.

Dick Cheney August 26, 2002

Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.

George W. Bush September 12, 2002

If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world.

Ari Fleischer December 2, 2002

We know for a fact that there are weapons there.

Ari Fleischer January 9, 2003

Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent.

George W. Bush January 28, 2003

We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more.

Colin Powell February 5, 2003

We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons -- the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have.

George Bush February 8, 2003

So has the strategic decision been made to disarm Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction by the leadership in Baghdad? I think our judgment has to be clearly not.

Colin Powell March 8, 2003

Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.

George Bush March 17, 2003

Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly . . . all this will be made clear in the course of the operation, for whatever duration it takes.

Ari Fleisher March 21, 2003

There is no doubt that the regime of Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction. As this operation continues, those weapons will be identified, found, along with the people who have produced them and who guard them.

Gen. Tommy Franks March 22, 2003

I have no doubt we're going to find big stores of weapons of mass destruction.

Defense Policy Board member Kenneth Adelman March 23, 2003

One of our top objectives is to find and destroy the WMD. There are a number of sites.

Pentagon Spokeswoman Victoria Clark March 22, 2003

We know where they are. They are in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad.

Donald Rumsfeld March 30, 2003

Obviously the administration intends to publicize all the weapons of mass destruction U.S. forces find -- and there will be plenty.

Neocon scholar Robert Kagan April 9, 2003

I think you have always heard, and you continue to hear from officials, a measure of high confidence that, indeed, the weapons of mass destruction will be found.

Ari Fleischer April 10, 2003

We are learning more as we interrogate or have discussions with Iraqi scientists and people within the Iraqi structure, that perhaps he destroyed some, perhaps he dispersed some. And so we will find them.

George Bush April 24, 2003

There are people who in large measure have information that we need . . . so that we can track down the weapons of mass destruction in that country.

Donald Rumsfeld April 25, 2003

We'll find them. It'll be a matter of time to do so.

George Bush May 3, 2003

I am confident that we will find evidence that makes it clear he had weapons of mass destruction.

Colin Powell May 4, 2003

I never believed that we'd just tumble over weapons of mass destruction in that country.

Donald Rumsfeld May 4, 2003

I'm not surprised if we begin to uncover the weapons program of Saddam Hussein -- because he had a weapons program.

George W. Bush May 6, 2003

U.S. officials never expected that "we were going to open garages and find" weapons of mass destruction.

Condoleeza Rice May 12, 2003

I just don't know whether it was all destroyed years ago -- I mean, there's no question that there were chemical weapons years ago -- whether they were destroyed right before the war, (or) whether they're still hidden.

Maj. Gen. David Petraeus, Commander 101st Airborne May 13, 2003

Before the war, there's no doubt in my mind that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical. I expected them to be found. I still expect them to be found.

Gen. Michael Hagee, Commandant of the Marine Corps May 21, 2003

Given time, given the number of prisoners now that we're interrogating, I'm confident that we're going to find weapons of mass destruction.

Gen. Richard Myers, Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff May 26, 2003

They may have had time to destroy them, and I don't know the answer.

Donald Rumsfeld May 27, 2003

For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction (as justification for invading Iraq) because it was the one reason everyone could agree on.

Paul Wolfowitz May 28, 2003

Quotes shamelessly stolen from http://billmon.org.v.sabren.com/archives/000172.html

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1 posted on 05/29/2003 3:32:34 PM PDT by LibertyBelt
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To: LibertyBelt
What happens when the masses refuse to listen to the cries about lies...

remember...it's all about sex and this President needs to get back to doing the business of the American people...
2 posted on 05/29/2003 3:34:36 PM PDT by grumple
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To: LibertyBelt
We have not found Saddam Hussein or his sons yet:

Proof positive that they never existed.
3 posted on 05/29/2003 3:34:41 PM PDT by Chuckster
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To: Chuckster
bump
4 posted on 05/29/2003 3:35:58 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: facedown
Why is it that the people whining about us not finding any WMD yet are those same folks who insisted that we give the UN inspectors more time!
5 posted on 05/29/2003 3:38:40 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Free Miguel and Priscilla!)
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To: LibertyBelt
At first I was hoping the delay was a rope-a-dope strategery that has worked so brilliantly for Bush in the past. But as more time passes, I will grow more skeptical about finding WMDs(beyond the trailiers and precursors and such)...not that they weren't there.

The problem here is the bold statements "We know, He definitely has, verified etc". That will come back to bite Bush hard if nothing substantial is found.

6 posted on 05/29/2003 3:40:34 PM PDT by amused (Republicans for Sharpton!)
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To: LibertyBelt
Well...


Bush, et al: We know abbsolutely Saddam has WMD's

Saddam: I don't have any WMD's.

One side was lying, the other was telling the truth. We went to war to prove who was the liar and who was not. It's beginning to look which was which will become pretty obvious in the reasonably near future. But will the ones who supported the liar (Arab or American as the case may be) change their position? I doubt it.

7 posted on 05/29/2003 3:51:27 PM PDT by templar
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To: amused
The problem here is the bold statements "We know, He definitely has, verified etc". That will come back to bite Bush hard if nothing substantial is found.

Surveys have found that the vast majority of the American people don't care if WMDs are found or not, and every mass grave uncovered, every interview with someone who lost his family, or every picture of happy Iraqis enforces that belief. People have just decided it was already worth it. And the people who are upset WMD haven't been found will automatically switch to "they were planted!" mantra as soon as they are announced.

8 posted on 05/29/2003 3:53:46 PM PDT by TomB
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To: amused
We knew in 1998 that he had certain WMDs.

The destruction of those WMDs was never documented, as he agreed to do. So, yes, we KNEW that he had those weapons at one time, and he never complied with the requirements of the ceasefire, therefore he got his a$$ kicked.

A salutary lesson to one and all.
9 posted on 05/29/2003 3:54:14 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: TomB
Surveys have found that the vast majority of the American people don't care if WMDs are found or not, and every mass grave uncovered, every interview with someone who lost his family, or every picture of happy Iraqis enforces that belief. People have just decided it was already worth it.

I should have qualified my statement better upon re-reading "will come back" should have been changed to "could come back". I see the 2004 election as a likely dog fight. Every morsel of information that can possbily be damning will be used, distorted, made up, whatever. This is a morsel and possibly a meal.

And the people who are upset WMD haven't been found will automatically switch to "they were planted!" mantra as soon as they are announced.

Lefties can't be reached but they can reach out to other people. As you may well know, voting can be a superficial thing. "Where are the WMDs?" could end up being as effective as "it's the economy stupid". It's short, simple and doesn't require deep thinking or qualifiers. Slogans can be effective. Then again I was surprised that more Americans didn't turn on Clinton when he lied to their faces so maybe you are correct that this is a dead issue.

10 posted on 05/29/2003 4:02:42 PM PDT by amused (Republicans for Sharpton!)
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To: LibertyBelt
History is replete with govts, and the heads of same, lying to the citizens to advance an agenda. It seems that this president is not any different, although he has already been nominated for sainthood. I heard Michael Medved tell a caller who asked where the WMD were, Michael said, if it was a lie, it was necessary, so much good has come of it.

I guess that the hate Clinton crowd, would have supported him if he would have lied to us like this. Yeah sure they would. For those that still can think for themselves, remember. Both parties lie, politicians are all corrupt or corruptible, and it is a game that never ends. That is why so many don't vote, or participate. They are simply opting out of a fixed game.

11 posted on 05/29/2003 4:05:01 PM PDT by jeremiah (Sunshine scares all of them, for they all are cockaroaches)
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To: Poohbah
I believe the WMDs are there I just don;t think we will find them. That doesn't invalidate their existence.

But lengthy explanations are moot when someone can scream "Where are the WMDs?" and that can resonate with the un-informed. Will that happen? I don't know but I know how the left thinks and this is a hammer for them. Whether it is effective remains to be seen.

12 posted on 05/29/2003 4:06:15 PM PDT by amused (Republicans for Sharpton!)
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To: LibertyBelt
To all those who are so WORRIED about WMD not being found, I offer this:

Gulf War 1 surrender conditions were many, all of which were BROKEN almost IMMEDIATELY by Sadaam and his gang. The STAR condition was to list the WMD and DOCUMENT their destruction. THAT was NOT done either. So.....when an country who has UNCONDITIONALLY surrendered, BREAKS the conditions set for it the articles of surrender, they thereby offer themselves up for "RESUMPTION OF HOSTILITIES" as if GULF WAR 1 NEVER ENDED. Case closed! Get over it people.

Other than fodder for our enemies within and without it doesn't matter a wit if we find WMD.

13 posted on 05/29/2003 4:14:26 PM PDT by PISANO
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To: LibertyBelt
Shortly before the start of the Iraq war I heard a news report that stated the Saddam regime buried WMD's in the desert, and then killed those all witnesses (e.g., those who buried the weapons). The report was on for a brief time (maybe a day) and then it disappeared. Does anyone recall that report and/or where to find it?
14 posted on 05/29/2003 4:14:30 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: amused
believe the WMDs are there I just don;t think we will find them. That doesn't invalidate their existence.

I honestly believe we are sitting on TONS of the stuff, just waiting for the right moment.

But then again, maybe we haven't found any yet. But why is it such a big deal right now? Iraq is the size of California. How long would it take to search California for a couple barrels?

15 posted on 05/29/2003 4:14:35 PM PDT by TomB
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To: LibertyBelt
We invaded so Haliburton could take over the oilfields. </sarcasm>
16 posted on 05/29/2003 4:24:06 PM PDT by CMClay
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To: LibertyBelt
I don't care who is in power. I don't like being lied to by those who govern me. Hopefully, the existence of WMD within the context that we went to war to disarm Iraq is established. If not, the credibility of our leaders will be severely undermined when it comes to generating support for the next tough action in the war.

I trusted our leaders' words. I want to continue that trust.
17 posted on 05/29/2003 4:28:08 PM PDT by Paraclete
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To: Paraclete
What about the bio-trailers????
18 posted on 05/29/2003 4:32:59 PM PDT by kaktuskid
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