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Hollywood Legend Jane Russell Slams Abortion In Interview
LifeSite ^ | Wednesday May 28, 2003

Posted on 05/29/2003 1:20:23 PM PDT by nickcarraway

LONDON, May 28, 2003 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The UK Life League, a British pro-life group has reported that Jane Russell, the 1940s and '50s Hollywood movie star and pin-up girl, now aged 82, gave an interview this week slamming abortion. "People should never, ever have an abortion. Don't talk to me about it being a woman's right to choose what she does with her own body. The choice is between life and death," said Russell.

Describing her shock at finding herself pregnant at 18: "The only solution was to find a quack and get an abortion. I had a botched abortion and it was terrible. Afterwards my own doctor said: 'What butcher did this to you?' I had to be taken to hospital. I was so ill I nearly died. I've never known pain like it." Russell says that due to the abortion she was not able to have any other children.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California; United Kingdom
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To: Hildy
My point was that if the "majority" of women regretted it so much, abortion would be rarer than it is.

At best, your point only addresses a subset of abortions since it only relates to women who've already had at least one. Only those women could regret having an abortion, which means the regret deterrance could only apply to second or following abortions.

So unless you have statistics to indicate that a significant percentage of women who have one abortion have more than one, then with all due respect your point is meaningless. Feel free to try again.

(BTW, even assuming statistics are helpful to that point, you should probably factor in the length of time between the first abortion and the following ones. Your personal experience notwithstanding, it seems reasonable to address the idea that regret over an abortion grows over time.)

Cyrano

381 posted on 06/02/2003 8:07:15 PM PDT by Cyrano
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To: Cyrano
Cyrano, try talking a young girl out of having an abortion with the argument "You will regret it later on." It doesn't work. That's was and is my sole point on this thread.
382 posted on 06/02/2003 8:10:23 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
I knew ya had it in you!!!!!

,,, was there ever any doubt? Hey, guess what? I won't have it aborted. How's that for a sense of humor?

383 posted on 06/02/2003 8:13:04 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: shaggy eel
Ahh..now you went and ruined it.
384 posted on 06/02/2003 8:18:56 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
Ahh..now you went and ruined it.

,,, life's not always like that - if you let it live, that is.

385 posted on 06/02/2003 8:27:36 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: Hildy
Just say you spelled it wrong. yeesh.

Just say you had a child executed and you're sorry. Yeesh.

386 posted on 06/02/2003 8:55:14 PM PDT by WarSlut (Absence of proof is not proof of absence.)
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To: Terriergal
You have FREEPMAIL
387 posted on 06/02/2003 9:02:52 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
Cyrano, try talking a young girl out of having an abortion with the argument "You will regret it later on." It doesn't work. That's was and is my sole point on this thread.

Bull. Your point is that you don't regret it because you spared yourself an inconvenience in the course of destroying a child. A child whose only crime was to be conceived by a self-centered, stubborn and willfully ignorant woman (that last part wasn't your point, it was mine).

The fact that you had an abortion isn't what makes you so utterly deplorable. It's your inability to admit a mistake and help prevent young women in situations similar to your own from making the same horrific error in judgement. Instead, you encourage them to do the same. How freakin' swell.

I do hope you grow up enough to mourn the death of your own child someday. But don't worry, I'm not praying for you (knowing how that offends you so).

Given the fact that you have so much pull around here that you now have NARAL moderating this thread, I'm sure this post will be nuked. But I don't really give a damn.

388 posted on 06/02/2003 9:10:15 PM PDT by WarSlut (Absence of proof is not proof of absence.)
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To: Hildy
...try talking a young girl out of having an abortion with the argument "You will regret it later on." It doesn't work. Actually, judging by some of my mail over the last decade, it does work. There are many young women who've been led to believe that the baby waiting to be born is merely a clump of cells that will 'someday' become an individual human being. when such young women are told the truth, that there is an alive, individual human being inside their body, building its own body, already in existence along the continuum that is tis unique lifetime, they have second thoughts ... adoption agencies are kept busy with such precious young women.
389 posted on 06/02/2003 9:14:30 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
Fine, I've posted my last post here...live in your dream world...I don't care.
390 posted on 06/02/2003 9:19:14 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
Fine, I've posted my last post here...live in your dream world...I don't care.

Something else you don't care about. There's news.

391 posted on 06/02/2003 9:21:11 PM PDT by WarSlut (Absence of proof is not proof of absence.)
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To: Hildy
...I don't care.

,,, the story of your life, in my estimation. I'm certain others on this thread have worked that out too.

392 posted on 06/02/2003 9:24:54 PM PDT by shaggy eel
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To: Hildy
Uh, and whom has the 'dream world' if actual pending abortions are avoided because the young woman came to learn that the 'thing' receiving life support from her body was in fact an alive individual human being that she would regret having killed?

Believe it or not, Hildy, there are women and girls in America who don't take killing another innocent individual so casually. That's why the truth sets them free from the darkness they face ... and it is vital that people like we pro-lifers applaud and assist her when she chooses life that she will not regret supporting, over a killing she will live to regret as she learns the truth. We are pro-life for HER also, Hildy!

393 posted on 06/02/2003 9:25:39 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: Hildy; TXBubba
I won't say your wrong, but I do tend to agree with TXBubba and on another poster that describes working in a Crisis Pregnancy Center and women admitting that if it is soooo right then why can't they talk about it. My gosh that is too close to home. I can identify with what both say. I can identify with what you say also because for years I convinced myself that what was done was MY RIGHTFUL CHOICE, that was in 1975 and I was only 17. But my actions proved otherwise.

I led a bitter and hateful life for years, but hey it was MY CHOICE. I almost lost the man I married because I was so convinced that I WAS ABOVE IT ALL and ME, ME ME. We married and there was no way in heck i was every gonna have kids, not me, no way. We finally had our first child in 1988, I was 31, and I soon understood what I had really and truly done. It was devastating to me, this GIFT FROM GOD was proof of his GRACE and his total LOVE for me, and I didn't deserve it, not after what I had done. I know now that with my repentence he has forgiven. But for years I was a fool, I was self centered.

My son is now going on 15 and heading for those same temptations and now I struggle whether to tell him or not. This is something that my husband and I will have to talk about, he knows but whether to tell our children or not is the next struggle we have.

know this may be too much info, but I just want to give my testimony of what so many others are probably going to encounter if they make that decision. It may not effect them the day after or a month later, or a year later, but IT will come back to haunt sooner or later, and if not that I believe is very rare. Because even in my ME WORLD, I NEVER FORGOT.

394 posted on 06/02/2003 9:30:23 PM PDT by GUIDO (.)
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To: GUIDO
And I believe everything you say. And I respect you for testifying on this board. But my experience is just as valid and it was different.
395 posted on 06/02/2003 9:43:57 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
My point was that if the "majority" of women regretted it so much, abortion would be rarer than it is.

If I may - I was married to one of those for ten years. I paid for the abortion of our first child - this was prior to our getting married - and I have regretted it on a daily basis since that moment almost fourteen years ago. Afterwards, I found out that it was her third abortion at that point in time. We've been divorced almost three and a half years at this time, and she's had two (since the divorce) that she's mentioned in passing.

While the pill may be a great contraceptive, nothing gets attention from a man (usually) like saying "I'm pregnant."

396 posted on 06/02/2003 9:45:38 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob (Dieses sieht wie ein Job nach Nothosen aus!)
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To: Tennessee_Bob
And your ex-wife is probably the sort of woman who will refuse to ever believe any of the aborted 'things' were individual human lives already in existence ... because to come to that realization is too crushing an experience, so don't try to change her persepctive, for her sake in life at this point ... unless you still love her and want to try and make a life together.
397 posted on 06/02/2003 9:52:10 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
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To: firebrand
FYI
398 posted on 06/02/2003 10:04:35 PM PDT by nutmeg (USA: Land of the Free - Thanks to the Brave)
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To: MHT
According to Marilyn A-Z, under "Abortion", Marilyn theoretically had 13, which made later pregnancy with Arthur Miller impossible.

13!!?? 13!!?? I thought I read that she was always wishing she could have a baby. That it was a major sadness in her life. I had heard that she had one abortion, and I felt sorry that she aborted the only baby she would ever have. Now I find out that it's 13!!??. I'd say she had 13 chances to have a baby.

399 posted on 06/02/2003 10:26:12 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: GUIDO
My son is now going on 15 and heading for those same temptations and now I struggle whether to tell him or not. This is something that my husband and I will have to talk about, he knows but whether to tell our children or not is the next struggle we have.

> I would reccomend that you not tell your son. He may see you in a very different light that may not enhance your relationship with him at all. He may see you as a killer, or he may resent not having an older sibling.

The most important point is that you should not tell him if, in fact, you are doing it to make yourself feel better, to absolve your own sin. Confessing to others out of a sense of "liberal" "honesty" can be very cruel to the recipient of such. Beware.

400 posted on 06/02/2003 10:39:10 PM PDT by Dec31,1999 (My 2 cents.)
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