Laci's Unborn Son Had Tape Around Neck and Large Cut on Body

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[Mihalis]

Laci Peterson's unborn child was found with one-and-a-half loops of plastic tape wrapped around his neck and a large cut on his body, believed to have come from a knife or some sort of sharp object, an investigation source told Fox News.

[TheSpottedOwl]

Hehee, I keep getting Geragos and Geraldo mixed up ;-)

Cut from the same cloth...grandstanding media whores.

[spectre]

Dan Abrams is now suggesting that it is "difficult" to positively determine if the wounds are "post mortum" or not. (WE knew that).

He also suggests that the bodies could have picked up debris that was wrapped around them.

We're almost back to square one.

Geragos doesn't usually end up getting his clients OFF, does he? :~)

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[JBCiejka]

I may have thought he was innocent when all this info was coming out (slim), but after seeing him in court with that smug "catch me if you can" expression he kept on his face, I am sure he is not. I was aghast with this arrogant demeanor during the entire hearing. If it had been me, I think, I would have looked scared to death.

[cgk]

Updated FNC article - with different/new details

Laci Peterson's unborn child was found with one-and-a-half loops of plastic tape wrapped around his neck and a large cut on his body, believed to have come from a knife or some sort of sharp object, an investigation source told Fox News.

The 25-page autopsy report on the fetus, which has been obtained by Fox News, was delivered to prosecutors and defense lawyers for Scott Peterson (search), who is charged with capital murder in the deaths of his 8-months pregnant wife and their unborn son.

Both bodies washed up along the shore of San Francisco Bay (search) in late April.

The DNA results prove conclusively that the child is that of Laci and Scott Peterson.

A source close to the investigation told Fox News that it's possible the baby may have been born before he died.

Previous news reports have said that Laci's womb was intact when her body was found.

But sources say the latest news is subject to debate, since the fetus was in good condition, and his tissue was very soft, indicating that he had been in the water for some time.

The state of the fetus also could indicate that the baby was inside the mother's womb under water and expelled naturally, but now the discovery of the plastic tape around the baby's neck raises questions as to how and why it was there. What was around the unborn child's neck could also be a combination of nylon, twine and plastic, according to the autopsy report.

Sources say it's possible the baby may have been strangled and that it's not likely the tape was placed around the neck after the body was discovered.

They did not rule out that the plastic somehow got wrapped around the baby's neck while he was under water, and that the plastic may have been debris.

The source who found Conner's body told Fox News that the baby appeared to be 33-38 weeks old, pretty close to full term, when he was found.

"The child appeared to be a few days old ... it was entangled in nylon and twine," said the first officer on the scene.

An addendum to the autopsy report says: "One and a half loops of plastic tape are around the neck of the fetus with an extension to a knot near the left shoulder ... an examination of the chest reveals an apparent post-mortem tear exposing the internal surfaces of the right shoulder and the right hemithorax. The wound margins are without evidence of chewing or scalloping."

Chewing or scalloping likely would have been evident if the tear was caused by natural causes.

While looking at a picture of what Conner looked like when found, the source said it appears the child was sliced open and that the wound does not look natural.

Stanislaus County District Attorney James Brazelton responded to the reports Thursday, saying since the autopsy results have been sealed by court order, his office could not verify the accuracy of any media statements.

Brazelton said he will file a motion to withdraw the defense's opposition to the sealing of the autopsy reports in light of the leaking of the autopsy information.

"It continues to be the view of the district attorney that the evidence in this case should be presented in court through the testimony of witnesses and not selectively leaked to the news media by unknown persons whom the press will not identify," said a statement from Brazelton.

Laci's husband, Scott Peterson, has pleaded not guilty in the slayings.

Defense sources have told Fox News they believe a satanic cult (search) may have been involved in Laci's disappearance. A mysterious brown van was seen around the Peterson residence around the time she went missing.

It's thought that the news could be used by Scott Peterson's defense team to bolster its theory that Laci and the fetus were killed in some sort of ritual.

The defense claims that prosecutors don't have any substantial evidence -- such as blood -- to link Peterson to the two deaths.

A prosecution source told Fox News that the autopsy report "has some things that are subject to interpretation, but overall there is nothing in there that triggered us to do another search warrant of Peterson's home, and nothing that shows us that Scott Peterson did not commit this crime."

The source added: "We have not shown our cards yet, there is a lot more evidence than has been reported, with all signs pointing to Scott Peterson."

Sources close to the defense believe the new information will cause the prosecution "grave hesitation" as the case goes forward, maybe even leading to "a dismissal against him."

The exact cause of Laci's and Conner's deaths has been murky thus far.

Bill Ellis, a cult expert from Pennsylvania State University, said the recent developments in the case are completely inconsistent with cult-like behavior.

Cults don't typically target pregnant women, he said, but when they have killed babies, they have never executed them by using a noose or hanging. Historically, babies killed by satanists were cannibalized.

In similar legal cases where the defense team has used a "satanic defense," signs of strangulation or a "noose" have ended up being garbage that caught on the corpse in the water or wherever the body had been left.

Peterson's defense attorney Mark Geragos would not comment on the report. He said Stanislaus County Superior Court Judge Al Girolami, during a closed meeting in his chambers Tuesday, "more than telegraphed that he does not want us commenting on the case."

Girolami had said he was considering a gag order in the case to prevent news leaks.

Fox News' Rita Cosby, Geraldo Rivera, Greta Van Susteren and Darren Mackoff and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

[FITZ]

Same here ----I haven't watched television or seen how he acts in court but selling Laci's vehicle and buying himself a nice new truck, the hair bleaching, and preparations to get to Mexico and all make me believe he did it. He's been so intent on blaming this on satanic cults ----who is to say he didn't try to set it up to look that way from the start? I think he did it.

[cgk]

How DOES one save a baby from a dying woman using TAPE?

[cgk]

Ping to #64

An addendum to the autopsy report says: "One and a half loops of plastic tape are around the neck of the fetus with an extension to a knot near the left shoulder ... an examination of the chest reveals an apparent post-mortem tear exposing the internal surfaces of the right shoulder and the right hemithorax. The wound margins are without evidence of chewing or scalloping."

A knot? In the plastic tape? I still say this goes with my theory that the baby could have been tangled up in whatever was holding Laci down after it had been expelled from her womb by gases, and before it was completely separated due to the placenta still being attached to the womb.

While looking at a picture of what Conner looked like when found, the source said it appears the child was sliced open and that the wound does not look natural.

And I still believe Connor could have been cut while Laci was being dismembered. It would have been post-mortem, even if the baby dies after Laci dies... killing, then dismembering isn't something that we've normally read happens as a "one step two step" event. There is normally a delay... then acceptance that eliminating the evidence is necessary. Dismemberment takes thinking about, and planning.

[Howlin]

I agree with your opinions.

If it is, as stated by GEraldo, nylon and twine, and not plastic, and since it was around Laci, too, I think it's all connected.

And I don't think anybody can say definitively when that that "wound" on Conner was made.

[EllaMinnow]

"The child appeared to be a few days old ... it was entangled in nylon and twine," said the first officer on the scene."

This whole thing today is starting to look like a huge pile of hooey, with an MG monogram.

[Howlin]

I don't know what that could mean, do you?

Note: I did hear Geraldo say today that the baby was older than they thought it was, 33 to 38 weeks.

[Howlin]

The ABC report says that the "tape" was around the baby and Laci.

[ewing]

Could give credence to the 'fight with a knife' scenario in the kitchen..

[cgk]

Perhaps they can compare the nylon/twine/plastic/tape to something they may have in those 75+ bags of evidence they took from the house. If they haven't already.

Half of me is wondering if Geragos is leaking all of this trying to push the Prosecution's hand to finally say: "Nonsense! Here is WHY we say Scott is the killer and he killed her in the home!" He still doesn't know for sure what they have on him in the way of evidence, yes? Full & Complete discovery happens at the Prelim?

[cgk]

If it is, as stated by GEraldo, nylon and twine, and not plastic, and since it was around Laci, too, I think it's all connected

Bingo. (And this would be the first time in this case I had agreed with Geraldo on something.)

[Howlin]

I believe so, but don't quote me on it.

[Howlin]

(And this would be the first time in this case I had agreed with Geraldo on something.)

We were just discussing on another thread how revolting it is to be agreeing with Jeffrey Feiger.

[cgk]

Has anyone else noticed that while Scott's mother, father and sister were in court for him, his brother was visibly absent?

His brother, whose passport application Scott was carrying when he was arrested, and IIRC his license as well, wasn't there when everyone else was.

Could it be because Scott's brother has blond hair and a goatee and THAT is what Scott was trying to do? Look like someone else so he could get away? That "the chlorine did it" is a joke. It dyed his goatee and not his eyebrows? Wild.

[cgk]

We were just discussing on another thread how revolting it is to be agreeing with Jeffrey Feiger

LMAO! Tell me about it! I loved it last night when he was yelling at that ex-DC cop turned Defense Attorney (Ted Williams?) - (how DOES that happen?!) last night on Greta.

He's the only balanced thing lately on her show, what with her never ending parade of defense attorneys.

[Poohbah]

Sounds like Scott Peterson and Mark Geragos have a fatal vision.

[cgk]

Scarborough Country tonight is going to talk to an expert on (Satanic) cults and talk about this theory tonight. (If it's the guy from Penn, it won't be good for the defense theory).

It's on at 7pm, 10pm, 1am, pacific. (So you don't have to miss Greta if you don't have TiVo.) ;)