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"Muslim" Driver's License Woman Is Convicted Child Abuser: See Her UNVEILED (Ulterior Motive?)
The Smoking Gun ^
| May 29, 2003
Posted on 05/29/2003 11:32:30 AM PDT by Timesink
MAY 28--Turns out the Florida woman who is suing for the right to wear a Muslim headdress in a driver's license photograph has previously been subjected to an, um, unveiled government portrait. Following her 1997 conversion to Islam, Sultaana Freeman (formerly Sandra Keller) was arrested in Decatur, Illinois for battering a foster child. Freeman, 35, pleaded guilty in 1999 to felony aggravated battery and was sentenced to 18 months probation. As a result of the conviction, state officials removed two foster children from Freeman's care. The mug shot of the felonious Freeman (below left) was taken after her arrest in the Illinois case. Freeman returned to the dock this week--that's her testifying in the below right photo--to challenge Florida rules requiring prospective drivers to submit to unveiled photos for their licenses. Last year, Freeman sued the state after her license was revoked when she failed to allow officials to photograph her sans headdress. State officials contend that, in light of the September 11 attacks, it is crucial that all motorists now be photographed in an unadorned state. (1 page)
For more on Freeman's case, check out Court TV's coverage.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; US: Florida; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: battery; burka; childabuse; convictedfelon; felon; fosterchildren; id; islam; nutball; sandrakeller; sultaanafreeman
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To: Timesink
well, that's a face made for radio if I've ever seen one.
with that face, she belongs in Guantanamo Bay.
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posted on
05/29/2003 11:47:35 AM PDT
by
Blzbba
To: Timesink
So this makes her a veiled threat.
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posted on
05/29/2003 11:48:16 AM PDT
by
TomGuy
To: Timesink
Good find!
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posted on
05/29/2003 11:49:08 AM PDT
by
TLBSHOW
(the gift is to see the truth)
To: TomGuy
Its curtains for her!
To: PetroniDE
Correct me if I am wrong, but under Islamic Law, women are NOT permitted to drive a car. If she wants a driver's license, she is breaking Islamic Law. Some Muslim. My conclusion: If she wants her driver's license, OFF WITH HER VEIL !!! The one angle I haven't heard the State of Florida bring up is that driving w/ that kind of veil cuts off her peripheral vision, making her a clear and present danger to her fellow floridans behind the wheel. They should make it illegal to drive like that. Afterall, if it's illegal to drive w/ a cell phone or a burger in your hand, it should be illegal to drive like that. I concur w/ you. If she wants to drive, she should take off that veil. Driving in a priviledge, not a right.
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posted on
05/29/2003 11:50:57 AM PDT
by
Tamar1973
("He who is compassionate to the cruel, ends up being cruel to the compassionate." Jewish sage)
To: Timesink
Another jailhouse conversion?
To: twigs
"Cars may not be in Islamic law, but they may be in shar'ia law. "
Actually, most muslim countries allow women to drive, except countries like Saudi Arabia, which force women to wear the kind of veil that Ms. Freeman wants to freedom to wear here.
Acutally part of Saudi Arabia's circular logic on this point is as follows.
1. Women must wear veils b/c of Sharia
2. Veils make it more dangerous for women to drive a car because they can reduce peripheral vision.
3. However, we will not allow women to leave their homes w/out the veil.
4. Therefor women can't drive.
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posted on
05/29/2003 11:56:35 AM PDT
by
Tamar1973
("He who is compassionate to the cruel, ends up being cruel to the compassionate." Jewish sage)
To: twigs
So any given country's shar'ia law may be different from Koranic law, and from the shar'ia law of another Muslim country. Kinda make it up as you go, hmmm, fits some churches too.
To: Tamar1973
Another angle to use is that a lot of places use your driver's license as an id. Want to cash a check? Let me see your license. Ditto for using a credit card (sometimes) or for getting into a bar.
How are these places supposed to guess that the person behind the ski mask (which is really looks like, a "veil" to me means slightly see through) is who they say they are?
What's a bank to do if she shows up with the mask on, and presents her masked id? Just hope to Allah that she is who she says she is?
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posted on
05/29/2003 11:59:27 AM PDT
by
lelio
To: Timesink
Thanks for telling her to put it back on. Much prefer the 2nd photo.
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posted on
05/29/2003 12:01:32 PM PDT
by
Helms
(Dems Find Smoking Gun: 45-55 Loss in Senate, Bush Wins 2nd Term)
To: Tamar1973
I don't care if she wants to walk around with a grocery bag over her head, complete with little drawn on eyes, nose and mouth. She, however has NO RIGHT to be allowed the priviledge of operating a motor vehicle in this country as long as she refuses to be photographed without the mask on. The whole purpose of a picture ID is to verify that the person on the ID is in fact the person holding it. What kinda dip$hit moron would ask that the picture be taken while their face is covered. Why not such type in the space "PHOTO NOT AVAILABLE."
How stupid we've become that this vermin even gets the time of day with just a crazy demand. THEY SHOULD SIMPLY SEND HER HOME WITH NO LICENSE.
Also...Where I grew up, people who wore masks were BAD GUYS!!
To: Living Free in NH
Yep she one ugly hoe!
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posted on
05/29/2003 12:04:47 PM PDT
by
DEPUTYMAYTAG
(whatwouldTonysopranodo)
To: Extremist
I wouldn't be suprised if someone started up the new religion that prays to The Supreme Bankrobber and requires all members to wear ski masks, or the nylons if they're into fashion. What's to stop the state from saying no to this request, if she's able to wear her "veil"?
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posted on
05/29/2003 12:07:49 PM PDT
by
lelio
To: lelio
Another angle to use is that a lot of places use your driver's license as an id. Here is something else that I can't get out of my head:
All these Muslim gals who come to this country have to have passports, don't they? Are they all photographed looking like this on their passports, in which case, what freaking use is the passport?
I don't understand how we can allow people in the country with this kind of a passport photo for ID.
Would the State Department issue a passport to someone with a bag on her head?
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posted on
05/29/2003 12:07:53 PM PDT
by
Alouette
(Why is it called "International Law" if only Israel and the United States are expected to keep it?)
To: Timesink
An article on CNN.com had the following summary on driving and ID photos in various Muslim countries:
"Drivers identification rules in Muslim nations:
Saudi Arabia: Women aren't allowed to drive
Iran: Women wear a traditional chador, which does not cover the face.
Egypt: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures
United Arab Emirates: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures
Oman: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures
Kuwait: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures
Qatar: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures
Bahrain: Women do not cover their face in I.D. pictures
Jordan: Women can drive if their faces are covered but do not cover their face in I.D. pictures"
In NONE of these countries are ID pictures done with the face covered. This, in the heartland of Islam.
To: Extremist
Except for the Lone Ranger! Oh, and Batman, Spiderman, etc!
Of course, those are fictional characters. Except for Batman. :-)
To: PetroniDE
My conclusion: If she wants her driver's license, OFF WITH HER VEIL !!!
OFF WITH HER HEAD!
Sorry. Got carried away. Carroll moment :).
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posted on
05/29/2003 12:13:38 PM PDT
by
Cachelot
(~ In waters near you ~)
To: PetroniDE
Beheadings and amputations are on Fridays, after morning prayers.
To: Legion; Puppage
Didn't she use to play goalie for the dart team?
Fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down?
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posted on
05/29/2003 12:16:25 PM PDT
by
Rummyfan
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