Chatterbox Exonerates New York Times!(Dick Morris BOMBSHELL: N.Y. Times Slants Polls To Favor RATS!)

Slate ^ | May 28, 2003 | Timothy Noah

[Timesink]

Sadly, this apologia for The Times appears to be the first public mention at all of Dick "The Toe" Morris's bombshell claim about Howell Raines intentionally slanting Times polls to favor Democrats. Rest assured I'll post more on this claim as further reviews of Morris's book trickle out.

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[Timesink]

ANOTHER NEW BOMBSHELL - New Dick Morris Book Claims New York Times Intentionally Slants Polls To Favor Democrats! Spread the Word!

Schadenfreude

This is the New York Times Schadenfreude Ping List. Freepmail me to be added or dropped.

I've got a toehold on this story!

[GOPJ]

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[JulieRNR21]

Lots of stuff coming out about the NY Slimes.....'bout time, I'd say!

[harpseal]

Clearly the New York Times which was once "The Paper of Record" now has to improve its accuarcy to reach the level of of The Weekly World News with their Bat Boy coverage. maybe someday they can be as reliable a news source as Devka if they realy improve several orders of magnitude.

[harpseal]

Please calling the New York Times Fishwrap is a grave insult to fish everywhere.

[RightWingMama]

He's gained 50 pounds since that picture was taken.

[canuck_conservative]

Another sham that leftist media groups often use is to ignore the undecided vote.

For example, a poll that said people might be 40% FOR an issue, 30% AGAINST, and 30% undecided, would be reported as "57% in favor" [that's 40/70%]. Neat trick, huh? Thre's no clear majority opinion from the poll, yet it's reported as if a majority was there!!

Over the years, I've seen several activist groups use this kind of statitical manipulation to "show" majority public support for abortion "rights", homosexual "rights", etc.

Always check to see what the UNDECIDED percentage in any controversial poll is!!!

[pacpam]

Both headlines overstate the provable facts. So what is the point exactly. Exonerate is not a word I would use for the alleged research results.

[MJY1288]

I'M SHOCKED, SHOCKED I TELL YA!

[WOSG]

IMHO, this "chatterbox" discussion misses the point. The NYT doesnt have to bias polls to enage in "pollaganda"; all they have to do is slant thow they report.

We've dissected so many instances that it is almost irrefutable that NY Times slants poll reporting against Bush. For example, if bush is polled at 58% from 61% and 47% say they are against bush on economy and 75% favor him on terror, NY Times will announce "Bush support slipping, growing numbers oppose him on economy" and they will print 10 paagpahs of people against him and 1 in favor.

';Nuff said.

[nwrep]

He's gained 50 pounds since that picture was taken.

[Grampa Dave]

Define Toehold.

On second thought, please don't!

[onyx]

Polls say = Sources say

I give polls and anonymous sources the same value --- none.

[Reagan is King]

The main reason CBS/New York Times poll weighting has tended to favor Democrats, she says, is that these polls are conducted by telephone, a method that inevitably undercounts lower-income people, who are highly mobile, less likely to have phones, and tend to be heavily Democratic. CBS/New York Times polls

Baloney. This is just a convenient excuse for skewing the results. I'd say the telephone undercounts higher-income people because they are more likely to use answering machines and voice mail, are more likely to be away from home actually working for a living, and tend to be heavily Republican. My reasons make just as much sense as theirs.

There's no way CBS/NYT polls are not skewed. Of course, we knew it all along...

[fat city]

lower-income people, who are highly mobile, less likely to have phones, and tend to be heavily Democratic.

Sh**! They got the hobo vote.

[stylin_geek]

Yep, Dick Morris makes charges of polls being weighted, and who does Chatterbox run to for verification? Why, the very people who run the polls, and have a very obvious interest in denying this actually happens. Of course, there is no chance of there being a liberal bias at the top in the mentioned media organizations.

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

The main reason CBS/New York Times poll weighting has tended to favor Democrats, she says, is that these polls are conducted by telephone, a method that inevitably undercounts lower-income people, who are highly mobile, less likely to have phones, and tend to be heavily Democratic. CBS/New York Times polls, she explained, are weighted in two stages. First they're weighted for differences in the probability of selection - i.e., who is more likely or less likely to be reached by the pollsters.

Uh.......... Kathleen......... how do you account for the people who are actually out working and gainfully employed and not likely to answer the phone during the dinner hour when they get home from work? I've got news for you, Kathleen; people on welfare are typically HOME and likely to answer the phone.

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

LOL!

[GOPJ]

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