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Romans 1: 28 - 32 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;" Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

What Is "A Homosexual" Kinsey's published data reveal that homosexuals are much more willing to "try it" with an animal, a child, a man, many women, or for that matter "something completely different."

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1 posted on 05/28/2003 8:54:26 AM PDT by Remedy
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38 posted on 05/28/2003 10:02:29 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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People with "sexually unusual" interests, Moser and Kleinplatz note, may in fact be quite happy and well-adjusted. But the APA's labeling of their conditions as "pathological" fuels social discrimination against them, Moser and Kleinplatz warn, which can lead to distress and discrimination that is psychologically damaging.
The stress that the sexually disordered feel is the objective difference between their perverted desires and reality. At the point when the sexually disordered cease to feel that stress, they're well on their way to becoming sociopaths (and/or psychiatrists : )
Besides, Moser and Kleinplatz add, psychiatry has no baseline, theoretical model of what, in fact, constitutes normal and healthy sexuality ...
Earth to Moser and Kleinplatz: Here's your baseline:

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40 posted on 05/28/2003 10:06:28 AM PDT by eastsider
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Few things are "normal" in San Francisco.
45 posted on 05/28/2003 10:12:47 AM PDT by verity
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The meeting is in San Francisco. The symbolism of flies swarming to a bucket of $#!t is truly breathtaking.....
46 posted on 05/28/2003 10:14:22 AM PDT by tracer (/b>)
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That they could even ask that opening question speaks volumes. Does anyone else find it frightening that these perverts are setting standards that will affect law?
48 posted on 05/28/2003 10:25:20 AM PDT by luvtheconstitution
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Well guys, I'm thinking you might want to keep these as abnormal, it might hurt business, y'know. Gotta keep up those revenues up so you can go on these junkets.

Hey! While you're at it, why don't you make bullying abnormal, make make excitability in young men abnormal, and the list is positively breathtaking. Smoking...owning guns...shooting guns too!.....driving SUVs, yes, of course... and let's not leave out that childhood disorder in which the child points his finger at someone and says "bang".

51 posted on 05/28/2003 10:32:50 AM PDT by TexanToTheCore
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Thanks for the ping. This is one I'll be passing along to folks who said this would never happen.

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61 posted on 05/28/2003 12:02:12 PM PDT by scripter
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Oh. My. God.

I honestly don't know what to say.

62 posted on 05/28/2003 12:09:06 PM PDT by Houmatt (Real conservatives don't defend kiddy porn!)
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Disagreeing, Psychiatrist Charles Moser of San Francisco's Institute for the Advanced Study of Human Sexuality and co-author Peggy Kleinplatz of the University of Ottawa presented a paper entitled, "DSM-IV-TR and the Paraphilias: An Argument for Removal." They argued that people whose sexual interests are atypical, culturally forbidden, or religiously proscribed should not, for those reasons, be labeled mentally ill.

...no, no no! When are these demented, possessed wacko's going to give up "trying" to convince society that is has nothing to do with being "atypical, culturally forbidden, or religiously proscribed?"

It's NATURE! Sorry Satan, you're not going to win this one with your perverted ways.

/rant off

65 posted on 05/28/2003 12:37:30 PM PDT by kstewskis ("Aim small, miss small...."' Benjamin Martin to Nathan and Samuel)
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many beloved authors and public figures throughout history have been high-functioning individuals who could actually be classified as pedophiles.

That’s the APA we all know and love…if you have no anxiety, good psychosocial functioning and a positive well-being then you’re not sick. It must be good for the pedophiles, bestials and incestuals because it worked for the homosexuals.

67 posted on 05/28/2003 12:50:13 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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But the APA's labeling of their conditions as "pathological" fuels social discrimination against them,

And here we have the APA showing it’s true colors. First homosexuality is dropped from the DSM through a rather under whelming vote of 58-42 with over 10,000 psychiatrists in decent because of Spitzer’s “special committee” who was motivated and lobbied by homosexual activists. Now using their same criteria they want do declassify other paraphilic disorders because of “social discrimination”, who’s next the schizophrenic who say’s he’s not ill either? This is completely about politics and gives credence to why the soft sciences aren’t really science.

89 posted on 05/28/2003 3:19:50 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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My conclusion is of several parts.

Few people in the mental professions are doing serious psychotherapy with the classes of activity they are debating. Hence they are unfamiliar with the maze of conflicts and pathology beneath those activities. That unfamiliarity creates acceptance on superficial levels and arguments.

The people making the arguments are warped to a point where warped conditions in other people are imperceptible to them or do not trigger their threshold of consideration.

94 posted on 05/28/2003 7:56:35 PM PDT by RLK
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151 posted on 05/30/2003 5:16:40 PM PDT by tame (If I must be the victim of a criminal, please let it be Catwoman! Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!)
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Among the mental illnesses being debated in the symposium at the APA's annual convention were all the paraphilias--which include pedophilia, exhibitionism, fetishism, transvestism, voyeurism, and sadomasochism.

So some of those sexual orientations will be added to the politically correct list to be promoted. BTW transvesticism is already nobilitated as transgenderism (or am I wrong?).

155 posted on 06/12/2003 6:28:53 AM PDT by A. Pole
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