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Letter: Republicans Abroad in Israel to President Bush against Roadmap
IMRA | 5/27/2003 | Republicans Abroad in Israel

Posted on 05/28/2003 8:05:33 AM PDT by LarryM

Letter: Republicans Abroad in Israel to President Bush against Roadmap

27 May 2003

The Honorable George Bush President of the United States of America The White House Washington DC

Dear Mr. President,

We, the Republicans Abroad - Israel, would like to applaud your leadership in the global war against terror.

By removing the Taliban from power in Afghanistan, and eliminating the evil regime of Saddam Hussein in Iraq, your administration has made the world a safer place for democracy and freedom. Under your stewardship, America has once again demonstrated that it is a benevolent superpower, one which uses force not to impose tyranny on others, but rather to liberate them from it.

As such, we are especially perplexed by your decision to press for the implementation of the Middle East "Road Map", which is slated to lead to the establishment of a Palestinian state alongside Israel.

Since September 2000, the Palestinian Authority has engaged in a campaign of terror against Israel, and it is inconceivable that they should now be rewarded with statehood for their mindless acts of violence.

Moreover, as a result of various Palestinian attacks, more than a dozen American citizens have been killed during this period. Justice demands that the Palestinian Authority turn over those responsible for these acts to the United States, something they have thus far failed to do.

We believe that pressuring Israel to negotiate with terrorists at the same time that America is waging war on terror is both morally untenable and intellectually inconsistent. It blurs the clarity of vision which you have repeatedly enunciated since the September 11 terror attacks in New York and Washington, and sends the wrong message to terrorists around the world, namely, that violence can and does pay.

Mr. President, as loyal members of the Republican Party, we would also urge you to consider the political consequences which pursuit of the "Road Map" will likely entail.

Pressing ahead with this plan will only serve to alienate American Jews and the Christian right, many of whom view the "Road Map" as an act of defiance against the Divine promise to bestow the Land of Israel to the people of Israel.

Indeed, we are aware of increasing numbers of American citizens - both here in Israel and in the United States - who are now considering abandoning the Republican party as a result of your Administration's pursuit of the "Road Map".

In light of the above, we would therefore urge you to reconsider, and to cease pressuring Israel to implement the "Road Map".

For, as Vice President Richard Cheney said following the recent terrorist attack in Riyadh, "The only way to deal with this threat ultimately is to destroy it. There's no treaty that can solve this problem. There's no peace agreement, no policy of containment or deterrence that works to deal with this threat. We have to go find the terrorists".

Therefore, we believe the United States should stand behind Israel during these difficult times, and give it the full backing and support it requires to defeat the ongoing Palestinian terrorist threat which it faces on a daily basis.

Sincerely, Eliyahu Weinstein Bob Lang Chairman Co-Chairman Republicans Abroad in Israel 31 Mishol Hadekalim Jerusalem 97278 ISRAEL Telephone: 972-2-571-5030 Fax: 972-2-571-5031 Email: info@israelgop.co.il Website: www.israelgop.co.il

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: israel; letter; palestinians; peaceprocess; presidentbush; republicans; roadmap
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To: bluecollarman
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101 posted on 05/28/2003 11:27:46 AM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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To: carton253
Ah Diogenes, have you found the Moderate Mullah yet ? I'm not keen to see more Jewish blood spilled because of American pressure on Israel to take it easy on terrorists. I think they, and we, should go after terrorists in every country that harbors them. I think any nation that ...

Wait a minute, didn't someone already say that ?

Does anyone know who said that ?

102 posted on 05/28/2003 11:29:39 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: SunStar
Actually, it is Sharon who is committing political suicide by supporting the "roadmap"...

Anything but. Most Israelis want peace. We are sick and tired of 100 years of conflict. This way Sharon steals any political thunder from the so-called "peace camp" of leftist parties like Labor and Meretz. If by some miracle the Roadmap works (and I don't see how it can), he, like Menachem Begin before him, will go down in history as a great peacemaker and a great Prime Minister. If it fails because the Palestinians won't stop the terror or incitement he can then say he did everything possible to give peace a chance and that the only alternative left is to remove the Palestinian leadership and dismantle the P.A. He would likely get support from the Bush administration to do so if the Roadmap fails, something Prime Minister Sharon has not had up until now.

The worst that will happen is that National Union will pull out of the government. They will sooner or later anyway. They pulled out of the previous Sharon government and caused Binyamin Netanyahu's downfall as well. The good news is that the coalition will still have 62 seats without them, and the oppostion will be divided between the far right and the left who never agree on anything. This is why bringing Shinui into the government was so important to Ariel Sharon. National Union cannot hold him hostage to their agenda.

People underestimate Arik Sharon. He is incredibly smart, and a very shrewd politician. No matter what happens to the Roadmap he will come out stronger for it.

103 posted on 05/28/2003 11:35:40 AM PDT by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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To: SunStar
Actually, it is Sharon who is committing political suicide by supporting the "roadmap"...

Anything but. Most Israelis want peace. We are sick and tired of 100 years of conflict. This way Sharon steals any political thunder from the so-called "peace camp" of leftist parties like Labor and Meretz. If by some miracle the Roadmap works (and I don't see how it can), he, like Menachem Begin before him, will go down in history as a great peacemaker and a great Prime Minister. If it fails because the Palestinians won't stop the terror or incitement he can then say he did everything possible to give peace a chance and that the only alternative left is to remove the Palestinian leadership and dismantle the P.A. He would likely get support from the Bush administration to do so if the Roadmap fails, something Prime Minister Sharon has not had up until now.

The worst that will happen is that National Union will pull out of the government. They will sooner or later anyway. They pulled out of the previous Sharon government and caused Binyamin Netanyahu's downfall as well. The good news is that the coalition will still have 62 seats without them, and the oppostion will be divided between the far right and the left who never agree on anything. This is why bringing Shinui into the government was so important to Ariel Sharon. National Union cannot hold him hostage to their agenda.

People underestimate Arik Sharon. He is incredibly smart, and a very shrewd politician. No matter what happens to the Roadmap he will come out stronger for it.

104 posted on 05/28/2003 11:36:25 AM PDT by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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To: truthandlife
I disagree. The subject of terrorism has nothing to do with winning and losing... it has to do with the systematic target of civilians to advance a political agenda.

Did the Irgun Stern target civilians? Yes or no. That, to me, defines the word.

By your reasoning, Bin Ladin is a terrorist until the moment he wins. Then, he is a patriot, visionary, or hero."

You write that Begin justified his murderous actions... it isn't for Begin to justify. Any crime, any murder, can be justified. But, that doesn't make the criminal or murderer any less guilty.

I'm sure you have already read much of what Ben Gurion wrote about Begin and Irgun... he didn't mince words. He called them terrorists too.

105 posted on 05/28/2003 11:38:17 AM PDT by carton253 (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: af_vet_1981
I can tell you are newbie because you are trying way to hard to make points...

So, I'm going to give you the last word...as sad as it is.

106 posted on 05/28/2003 11:41:52 AM PDT by carton253 (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: LarryM
I am hoping too that Bush will see the light and throw this map in the trash.
107 posted on 05/28/2003 11:42:06 AM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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To: anotherview
People underestimate Arik Sharon. He is incredibly smart, and a very shrewd politician. No matter what happens to the Roadmap he will come out stronger for it.
    The more important points, regardless of the outcome of the road map (to perdition)
  1. Does is defeat the Islamic terrorists and the regimes that support them ?
  2. Does it save or cost American and Allied lives in the war on terror ?

108 posted on 05/28/2003 11:44:03 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Publius6961
Transfer is no solution, and might provoke military action against Israel by a united Arab world, or worse, by the U.N. with American blessings. It is viewed as immoral and it violates international law.

Look, the Roadmap is going to fail because the Palestinians are never going to stop terror and incitement. They clearly want to destroy Israel. Many Arab states do as well. I think Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom's meetings in recent days with his counterparts from Qatar, Tunisia, and Morocco shows that some moderate Arab governments aren't willing to do much for the Palestinians and are willing to accept Israel's existence. The Arab world is divided, just as it has been throughout history on every major issue.

Prime Minister Sharon's and his Cabinet's acceptance of the Roadmap will not likely bring us any closer to peace. It is already, however, at least temporarily, reducing Israel's isolation in the world community and helping our battered economy. When it fails Arik Sharon will be in a much stronger position to take stronger action against the P.A., Hamas, Islamic Jihad, et al than he has been up to now, largely because the Americans won't be calling for "restraint" any more.

109 posted on 05/28/2003 11:45:45 AM PDT by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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To: carton253
I can tell you are newbie because you are trying way to hard to make points... So, I'm going to give you the last word...as sad as it is.

I love the smell of capitulation in the afternoon.

110 posted on 05/28/2003 11:49:04 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: Diddle E. Squat
#70 is SOOOOOOOOOOO right.

Single issue tantrum-throwers make me laugh!

Trace
111 posted on 05/28/2003 11:49:35 AM PDT by Trace21230 (Ideal MOAB test site: Paris)
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To: anotherview
If you think transfer is no solution and the Palestinians are never going to stop terror and incitement, do you have a Plan B ?
112 posted on 05/28/2003 12:00:19 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: carton253
Abu Mazen may be the necessary next step of wresting control from Arafat. Yes, I know that he is an Arafat co-hort, but he has displayed some independence. He wanted to take Barak's deal in 2000. Yes, I know some of the things that he has written... but, the new prime minister could not be a total dove and survive. If Abu Mazen is serious in wresting power away from Arafat, then Abu Mazen needs our support.

Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) is most definitely in a power struggle with Arafat. Right now the PLC and most of the Palestinian infrastructure supports Arafat, and I am not sure anything Israel or the U.S. will do can change that. OTOH, I agree that Abbas was one of the people (along with Ahmed Qurei, Jabril Rajoub, and Mohammed Dahlan) who has gone public with his view that the Palestinians should have taken Barak's offer, if not at Camp David then at least at Taba. This means that he is willing to compromise to get a Palestinian state, and he might actually be interested in peace. Yasser Arafat was never willing to compromise at all. For this reason, if no other, Mahmoud Abbas should be seen as an improvement if we can finally defang Arafat.

Islamic Jihad, Hamas, Fatah, et all will not take this lying down. They will attack since they want to stop the peace talks. If Mazen cracks down on them (no revolving prison door, etc) then there might be a chance for peace.

We know from experience that this CAN be done. Arafat cracked down on Hamas and Islamic Jihad successfully in 1996. The problem is that Hamas has more public support now and is better armed. I really don't know that Abbas is willing or able to risk civil war to stop the terrorism, and that is precisely what he has to do. If he does he is certainly a stronger leader than Arafat. I fear he is not, and will never truly be given a chance to lead.

The Israelis want peace.

Yes, indeed. However, we will not accept an illusion of peace without securit guarantees. That is the path to destruction.

They have asked for America's help. Clinton sold them down the river.

I am not at all sure that the current government is all that keen on America's "help". However, Ariel Sharon understands the value of the relationship with President Bush and the U.S. See my previous post. Also, President Clinton did not sell Israel down the river. He is generally viewed as a friend of Israel. I think his efforts to make peace were genuine. He failed to understand that Yasser Arafat was no partner for peace. Heck, Israelis were so hungry for peace that the majority failed to see the signs that were there.

But, Israel cannot continue to "occupy" (IDF currently locking down Palestinian towns) for years and years. It is damaging their economy.

Israel is in the worst recession it has ever experienced. While the cause is not entirely due to the intifada, that is a big part of it. There is another, more serious reason why Israel must separate itself one way or another from the Palestinians. Look at their birth rate. Within a decade there may be more Arabs west of the Jordan than Jews. This cannot be allowed to happen within Israel's borders if we wish to remain a democracry. We also cannot fight a never ending war. While it is true that the conflict has flared since the 1920s, there have always been respites for recovery and growth. Israel needs one again. I don't think Bush will do that. The Israelis look to us... the Palestinians look to us. So, let's see what can be done. Who knows... maybe Mazen is on the up-and-up... Arafat will be truly sidelined... and the terror will be attacked.

113 posted on 05/28/2003 12:01:42 PM PDT by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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To: anotherview
Also, President Clinton did not sell Israel down the river. He is generally viewed as a friend of Israel. I think his efforts to make peace were genuine. He failed to understand that Yasser Arafat was no partner for peace. Heck, Israelis were so hungry for peace that the majority failed to see the signs that were there.

May I suggest that you read Yossef Bodansky's "The High Cost of Peace." Then, you and I can revisit the subject of Bill Clinton being Israel's friend. (He was not!)

114 posted on 05/28/2003 12:08:23 PM PDT by carton253 (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: rintense

Hmmm... I thought GHWB lost because:

The Israel accusation is a new one to me.

Ronald Reagan captured the Jewish vote. The first President Bush did not. When President Bush froze some loan guarantees and aid to Israel over the settlement issue and had a confrontational relationship with Prime Minister Shamir it cost him any remaining support he had with Jewish voters. It may also be the reason some Conservative Christians stayed home.

American Jews vote in large numbers. The general population is far more apathetic, with typically half or more not showing up on election day. The lack of Jewish support may not have cost President Bush the election, but it sure didn't help him any.

BTW, IMHO there is only one reason President Bush lost his reelection bid in 1992. Two words: Ross Perot.

115 posted on 05/28/2003 12:09:33 PM PDT by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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To: Jewels1091
I think you are ignoring a few bits of electoral reality in your assessment of the damage to President Bush's chances of reelection if he is perceived as tilting towards the Palestinians and away from the Arabs.

1) Currently polls show that an overwhelming majority of American Jewish voters support the President. This despite the fact that a majority of American Jewish voters are a) Democrats or Independents and b) at least somewhat liberal. Israel is an overriding issue to American Jews. It is the only reason why Jimmy Carter lost Jewish support and Ronald Reagan gained it. It is the only reason the American Jewish community, by and large, will support this President.

2) Conservative Christians vote based on their religious convictions a whole lot of the time. If President Bush is seen as taking actions contrary to their beliefs, whether on Israel or on other issues, they will likely not vote. A lot of Evangelicals stayed home in 1992 and 1996.

Can you win the White House while being seen as less than supportive of Israel? Yes, of course. However, in a close election it can be the difference between winning and losing.
116 posted on 05/28/2003 12:18:37 PM PDT by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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To: hchutch
My only criticism of the Eoadmap is the fact that there is NO warning to the Palestinians that failure to comply with it will result in any sort of adverse consequences.

Actually, the Roadmap is based on a series of reciprocal and simultaneous actions. If the Palestinians do not stop attacks on Israel, do not stop incitement, and do not dismantle terrorist organizations they have failed to comply with Phase 1 of the Roadmap and it's dead in the water. Phase 2 never happens.

The roadmap, IMHO, is NOT fatally flawed IF the Palestinians hold up their end of the bargain. That is, IMHO, a very big if. But this is NOT a case where we need to ask "WTF is the Administration thinking?" pretty loudly.

At a guess: both President Bush and Prime Minister Sharon are giving the Palestinians one last chance at what they missed out on at Camp David and Taba. That is, a chance to determine their own destiny. This is mainly a sop to the Arabs, the U.N., the Europeans, and the Russians. If the Roadmap fails and blame can be put squarely on the Palestinians both men will have justification to pursue a military solution.

Don't underestimate President Bush or Prime Minister Sharon. Both are very smart men. I think they know exactly what they are doing, and I think they know what the real chance of success is.

117 posted on 05/28/2003 12:24:54 PM PDT by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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To: anotherview
I still don't see where Bush is 'tilting' towards the Arabs. Because he is going to try and make peace he is tilting???? I don't see how you can connect those dots yet. Wait and see what happens before you tar and feather him. Did you ever think Bush might be telling Arafat this is your last chance, and I mean what I say?????? The very place Arafat sleeps at night belongs to the UN, think we can't get rid of those camps???? Think we can't make life miserable for Arafat??? How bout we cut ALL the money that goes there? Bush always has something that we don't know about. He always says what he means...we'll just see. If Bush plays this out right, are all of you naysayers going to apologise???
118 posted on 05/28/2003 12:29:17 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: LarryM
You do realize, don't you, that the Palestinians already have a state. They are recognized as such by the euro-peons and the Arab states. They have all the advantages of statehood with none of the responsibilities. Further, you can not declare war on a stateless people, nor can you work for "regime change".
119 posted on 05/28/2003 12:35:15 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: truthandlife
ONCE A TERRORIST, ALWAYS A TERRORIST!!!

Not so. Anwar Sadat flew planes for the Nazis and lead his country to attack Israel on the holiest day of the Jewish year in 1973. Menachem Begin was the head of the Irgun, which certainly was responsible for terrorist acts against the British. The two men rose above their past and made peace.

Sadly, I don't see a Sadat among the Palestinians. I would love to believe that Mahmoud Abbas is one, but he hasn't shown me anything to make me believe it.... yet.

120 posted on 05/28/2003 12:38:22 PM PDT by anotherview ("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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